Nick Shirley: “They Want to Kill ICE Agents — and Me Too”

Nick Shirley joins Riley Gaines for his fourth appearance on the show to break down his latest investigation into alleged fraud in New York City’s adult daycare and Medicaid systems. Shirley explains how he believes kickback schemes, questionable enrollment numbers, DME companies, and taxpayer-funded programs are being abused — and why he says these problems extend beyond New York into places like Minnesota and California. Riley and Nick also discuss his recent Senate testimony, his interactions with Dr. Oz, DOGE, threats he has faced while reporting, and the broader political response to his work. Later in the conversation, Nick previews his upcoming reporting on the rise of communism and the Democratic Socialists of America, arguing that proposals around government-run systems, property seizure, prisons, and centralized control should concern Americans across the political spectrum. This episode covers Medicaid fraud allegations, adult daycare centers, durable medical equipment scams, government waste, Senate hearings, DOGE, Dr. Oz, the DSA, communism, public safety, and Nick Shirley’s work documenting fraud across the country. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices