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EPISODE · Oct 5, 2025 · 37 MIN

"No, not THOSE group appearances!"

from The Lydia McGrew Podcast · host Lydia McGrew Podcast

Do the vast majority, or virtually all, scholars across the critical spectrum grant appearances of Jesus to his disciples *that seeemed to them like what is told in the Gospels*? Emphatically not. When skeptical and even moderate scholars grant some kind of group appearance or other, they absolutely do not grant that it seemed to them like Jesus was eating with them as a group, having long conversations, and so forth. Not even that *phenomenology* of the experiences. (Yes, of course, if they're skeptics they don't agree that that really happened, but this denial goes farther than that.)Yet in a popular article in 2018, Dr. Habermas very strongly implied that virtually all scholars agree that the disciples had experiences as if Jesus was "having conversations with friends just like any of us might do" and that this was what convinced them that Jesus was risen.https://stream.org/surprising-scholarly-agreement-facts-support-jesus-resurrection/No wonder people get confused about how far the minimal facts argument can take us.Next time I'll talk about who does and doesn't grant even a vision-like or non-physical-like type of group experience, and spoiler--that doesn't seem to include a majority of skeptical scholars, either.

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