EPISODE · Jul 29, 2026 · 49 MIN
OCD, Chronic Stress & The Vagus Nerve: Jon Hacker | Ep28
from The Rock Bottom Podcast · host Patrick Sullivan Jr. & Ashley Leroux
Jon Hacker was just 11 years old when severe OCD made everyday life feel impossible. He hid his struggles from everyone, including his own twin brother, while growing up in a stressful home marked by financial hardship, bullying, and his father's battle with alcoholism. Desperate to understand what was happening inside his mind, Jon became obsessed with the nervous system, eventually transforming his own recovery into a mission to help others better regulate stress and improve mental wellness through innovative vagus nerve technology.In this episode, Jon shares how chronic stress changes the way we experience reality, why modern life keeps so many of us stuck in fight-or-flight mode, and why he believes your brain sees every email, text, and notification as another "tiger" to survive. We also explore the science behind the vagus nerve, practical ways to support your nervous system, and the journey that led Jon to create Zen Bud.Jon HackerWebsite: https://zenbud.healthInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/zenbudhealthLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-hackerDisclaimer: This podcast is for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical advice. Always consult a qualified health professional before making changes to your health routine.Chapters00:00 Coming Up This Episode00:22 Podcast Intro: Jon Hacker's Story01:06 Interview Begins: Welcome Jon Hacker01:40 Severe OCD at 11 Years Old03:09 What OCD Actually Looked Like03:33 Childhood Stress, Bullying & Family Struggles06:44 Hiding OCD From Everyone, Even His Twin Brother07:21 The Nervous System Obsession That Changed Everything11:09 The Practice That Helped Him Overcome OCD13:46 Discovering the Vagus Nerve14:52 Why the Vagus Nerve Is Your Stress "Off Switch"16:03 How Chronic Stress Changes Your Reality17:49 Why Your Brain Thinks Every Email Is a Tiger19:53 Natural Ways to Stimulate the Vagus Nerve21:49 The Story Behind Zen Bud26:25 What the Vagus Nerve Actually Does29:07 Can It Help You Sleep?30:42 Measuring Stress & HRV Improvements31:52 Are We More Stressed Than Cavemen?35:27 Why "Your Attention Is the Product"37:27 Can Kids Benefit From Vagus Nerve Therapy?39:15 How Zen Bud Changed Jon's Life40:17 Jon's Thoughts on Neuralink47:05 Rock Bottom Score: "I Was a One"47:26 Life Today & OCD Recovery48:27 The Book Jon Wants to Write49:00 Where to Find Jon HackerPresented by: @JigsawHealthTVSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6Zpj6O04BDznHju7zG8ErR?si=bc40afcbe5b145c1Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-rock-bottom-podcast/id1809787645Do you have a health horror story that inspires? Apply to be a guest on the podcast: https://forms.gle/aqwJVZXAFFjnyTyS8
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