OEP 34: Nick Fornwalt on Training, Hoofcare and finding Partnership in Horsemanship

In this compelling conversation, Nick Fornwalt shares his transformation from traditional Western trainer and farrier apprentice to barefoot hoof care provider and partnership-based horseman. Nick opens up about his early days in the industry, when horses were viewed as machines to be programmed and the training methods that went along with it.Nick shares about a pivotal moment with his horse, and a profound realization about communication, fairness, and humility that sparked a journey that would change his life.Nick doesn't shy away from the controversial topics. He makes a strong case that barefoot is objectively better for horses, but he also brings nuance to the conversation, acknowledging that shoes can be valuable tools when approached honestly, rather than as permanent solutions we avoid questioning.The conversation explores the false dichotomy between "push-button horses" and partnership-based training, the uncomfortable truth about what it actually takes to commit to barefoot transitions, and why Nick believes the industry often prioritizes human convenience over horse welfare. He shares how horses have taught him lessons about ego, patience, and presence that have made him a better husband and father.Throughout the episode, Nick emphasizes that real horsemanship isn't about technical perfection—it's about being present enough to have genuine conversations with horses, even when those conversations reveal uncomfortable truths about ourselves.ABOUT NICK FORNWALTNick Fornwalt is a hoof care provider and horse trainer based in Payson, Arizona. His journey with horses began in earnest during college, though horses weren't a major part of his childhood. After working in the film and television industry, Nick found himself drawn back to a more rural, agricultural lifestyle through horses.When COVID shut down the entertainment industry, Nick transitioned full-time into hoof care and training. What started as a practical need to trim his own horses evolved into a professional practice after apprenticing with traditional farriers and later studying barefoot approaches with specialists like David Landreville.Nick's training philosophy has been deeply influenced by his work with mentor and training partner Tessa Nicolet of Cohesive Horsemanship, whose French classical-based approach and emphasis on lightness, communication, and partnership marked a significant departure from his earlier methods. Today, Nick focuses on developing horses as curious, willing partners rather than push-button machines, and advocates for barefoot hoof care whenever possible while maintaining honest, nuanced conversations about when and why shoes might be needed.He approaches both hoof care and training with an emphasis on making it harder for the human and easier for the horse, prioritizing sustainability, welfare, and genuine partnership over convenience and quick results.Contact:Website: www.fornwaltlivestock.comFollow, Subscribe, and Rate the Optimized Equine Podcast! Follow Our Socials and Stay Connected at TamaraLeeBarrett.comChapters00:00 Nick's Journey with Horses07:15 Transitioning to a Professional Role18:05 Corner Turning Moments in Training18:18 Realizations and Shifts in Perspective21:45 Turning Points in Horse Care26:02 The Culture of Hoof Care30:17 Understanding Barefoot vs. Shoeing36:30 The Band-Aid Effect of Shoes44:31 Interpreting Horse Behavior44:35 Understanding Horse Communication49:40 The Complexity of Training Horses55:36 Personal Development Through Horsemanship01:00:33 Wishes and Reflections on Horsemanship