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EPISODE · Sep 27, 2025 · 35 MIN

OpenAI & Nvidia’s 10GW Plan, Stephen Fry’s Red Lines, and a ChatGPT Exploit: The AI Argument EP73

from The AI Argument · host Frank Prendergast and Justin Collery

OpenAI and Nvidia want to build out 10 gigawatts of AI infrastructure, but Frank calls out the missing electricity and the missing billions. Justin argues the economy will lean on compute, data centres will dwarf expectations, and photonic chips could gut today’s energy bill. One sees magic beans. The other sees a steel-and-silicon juggernaut.Meanwhile, Stephen Fry wants global “red lines” for AI. Justin says you can’t regulate something that doesn’t exist yet. Frank says if you don’t set the guardrails now, you’ll never claw it back once things go sideways.While policy-makers debate red line fears, the smaller, sneakier dangers are already in your inbox. Hidden prompts in your emails can trick AI agents like Deep Research into quietly leaking your personal data.Finally, Frank and Justin look at two new AI startups. Huxe promises to be your AI newsreader, feeding you audio summaries tailored to your interests. And Neon? That one pays you to install spyware on yourself. It listens to your phone calls and ships the data off to AI labs for training. Because that sounds like a good idea 😬00:36 Can OpenAI and Nvidia power their big AI dream?13:45 Can Stephen Fry draw red lines for AI?21:58 Could ChatGPT silently leak your data?26:28 Could Huxe be your new AI newsreader?30:53 Would you let Neon monetise your phone calls?► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSEDOpenAI and NVIDIA announce strategic partnership to deploy 10 gigawatts of NVIDIA systemsSam Altman: Abundant IntelligenceAI experts return from China stunned: The U.S. grid is so weak, the race may already be overWe urgently call for international red lines to prevent unacceptable AI risks.OpenAI plugs ShadowLeak bug in ChatGPT that let miscreants raid inboxesHuxe: Your Personal Audio CompanionNeon, the No. 2 social app on the Apple App Store, pays users to record their phone calls and sells data to AI firms► CONNECT WITH US For more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn. Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

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OpenAI and Nvidia want to build out 10 gigawatts of AI infrastructure, but Frank calls out the missing electricity and the missing billions. Justin argues the economy will lean on compute, data centres will dwarf expectations, and photonic chips could gut today’s energy bill. One sees magic beans. The other sees a steel-and-silicon juggernaut. Meanwhile, Stephen Fry wants global “red lines” for AI. Justin says you can’t regulate something that doesn’t exist yet. Frank says if you don’t set t...

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