EPISODE · May 13, 2025 · 45 MIN
Origins of Human Risk Management with Flavius Plesu, Hosted by Fred Menachem
from Engage & Secure Podcast · host Fred Menachem
Welcome to the Engage & Secure Podcast, Powered by OutThink!Timestamps below the description.In this episode, OutThink Founder & CEO Flavius Plesu sits down with host Fred Menachem to chronicle how his quest to go beyond the limitations of conventional, legacy security awareness training programs led to the emergence of Human Risk Management as a category and the founding of OutThink. While in industry, Flavius took on the challenge of figuring out how to drive engagement with cybersecurity from every employee across an enterprise organization. What he found was what he refers to now as the “Sea of Sameness” - monotonous, uninspiring compliance programs and training modules poorly designed for stimulating genuine interest in the end user. Flavius recognized the opportunity. He collaborated with other practitioners and subject matter experts to conceive of a new approach based on personalization, instructional design best practices, and alignment with business objectives: cybersecurity human risk management was born. OutThink, the world’s first AI-native cybersecurity human risk management platform, was founded to bring that vision to life. Discover how OutThink’s relentless pursuit of building a truly excellent human-centric cybersecurity product was inspired by the greatness of Michael Jordan and the sacrifices and commitment of an amazing team. But for Flavius, cybersecurity is just the start - after securing digital life, everywhere, he aspires to work on other big, systemic issues affecting those less fortunate across the globe. What You’ll Learn in This Episode:- Why Traditional Security Awareness Training Is Flawed - While compliance is important, addressing the human element in cybersecurity warrants a more personalized, impactful approach.- The Founding of Outthink - How interactions with other industry practitioners demonstrated the need for a game-changing product.- Cybersecurity and Beyond - Why improving the security of digital life served as a gateway to dreaming about solutions for other significant challenges.- Lessons on Leadership and Impact - The powers of a steadfast belief that the status quo can be improved on and the perseverance to fully commit to that belief.Timestamps: (0:00) - Intro (2:18) - The 'Sea of Sameness' in Security Awareness(6:22) - Why Human Risk Management Is Necessary(10:37) - How to Drive Engagement with Cyber(13:48) - Why Cybersecurity Human Risk Management(16:04) - Genesis of OutThink (20:33) - How to Build Great Product(25:00) - Excellence Is All About Team (27:40) - Vision for OutThink(31:56) - Securing Digital Life, Everywhere(35:16) - What Would Flavius as a Kid Think?(37:58) - Building the Industry(43:35) - Parting Advice and ConclusionKeep an eye out for our next episode, which will feature leading lights in the Human Risk Management space!Don’t forget to follow, activate notifications, and drop a comment with your biggest insight from the episode.More Resources & Connect With OutThink:Visit our website. Follow us on Linkedin and Twitter.
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