EPISODE · Dec 14, 2023 · 48 MIN
Asia Scarlett-Jones: What Your Family Lawyer Can and Can't Do
from Been There Got Out Podcast · host Chris & Lisa / Asia Scarlett-Jones
When a lawyer cries with you, it feels caring. Asia Scarlett-Jones argues it is the opposite of what you are paying for. Her job, she says, is to take everything you feel and translate it into something a court can actually act on.Asia Scarlett-Jones is a matrimonial and family law attorney who now runs her own firm. Before that she worked as a court attorney, on the judge's side of the bench, conferencing cases and helping draft decisions, and earlier she did public-defense work at Legal Aid. That range, from neutral court insider to advocate, informs how she prepares clients for what family court is really like.In this conversation, Asia and Lisa dig into managing expectations, starting with your own attorney. She explains why she stays rational rather than emotionally invested, how she screens a potential client (including asking what the other parent would say about them), and why she is honest when a client wants the one thing she cannot deliver: a judge who will punish their ex. The court, she reminds them, exists for the children and is measured against the best-interest standard, not for the adults.They also cover why litigation is a gamble that retraumatizes families, and why settlement usually serves the kids better; how parenting-plan orders go wrong when they are too vague or too rigid, and why you read every line before signing, because a word as small as "must" becoming "may" can sink you at enforcement. Asia closes on communication and emotional regulation: responding quickly to clients, and teaching them to stay calm instead of firing back at every message meant to provoke them.As always, this is strategic education, not legal or mental-health advice for your specific situation.🎓 What you'll learnWhy an attorney who stays rational, not emotionally invested, serves you better in courtWhat a former court attorney learned watching cases from the judge's side of the benchHow a lack of diversity and interpreters changes families' experience of family courtWhy "make the judge punish my ex" is the one goal a lawyer and a court cannot deliverWhat a trial actually costs a family, and why settling usually protects the kids moreWhy a too-detailed order can backfire, and why you read every word before you signHow a single word, "must" turning into "may," can wreck an order at enforcementHow to model emotional regulation instead of answering every provoking message⏱️ Chapters 0:00 Intro 1:00 Meeting Asia, and her path to owning a firm 3:00 What a court attorney sees from the judge's side 5:00 The diversity gap, interpreters, and families' experience of court 7:00 Facing an abuser in the room, and what virtual court changed 9:00 Why you don't want a lawyer who's emotionally invested 13:00 Screening a client, and "what would your ex say about you?" 15:00 "What you want, I can't do": the court is for the kids 19:00 Why settling beats litigation, and what a trial really costs 23:00 Parenting-plan orders: too vague, too detailed, and reading every word 31:00 Communication, modeling calm, and knowing when to let goKeep going 💜 Book a free 30-minute discovery call and we'll help you map your next steps: https://beentheregotout.com/call 📘 Been There Got Out: Toxic Relationships, High-Conflict Divorce, and How to Stay Sane Under Insane Circumstances — https://www.amazon.com/dp/194627495X 📘 Been There Got Out: When Your Ex Turns the Kids Against You (our parental-alienation book) — https://www.amazon.com/dp/1967674183About Been There Got Out Chris Barry and Lisa Johnson are high-conflict divorce, custody, and co-parenting strategists, and the founders of Been There Got Out. They know these cases from the inside: both have successfully represented themselves in family court. Few attorneys have a playbook for a case like this — Chris and Lisa write yours with you, so you and your kids can get through it as unscathed as possible.
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When a lawyer cries with you, it feels caring. Asia Scarlett-Jones argues it is the opposite of what you are paying for. Her job, she says, is to take everything you feel and translate it into something a court can actually act on. Asia Scarlett-Jones is a matrimonial and family law attorney who now runs her own firm. Before that she worked as a court attorney, on the judge's side of the bench, conferencing cases and helping draft decisions, and earlier she did public-defense work at Legal Ai...
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