Overdiagnosing Everyday Life & Award-winning Journalist Gail Sheehy

Kathryn interviews professor emeritus at Duke University School of Medicine Allen Frances MD, author of "Saving Normal: An Insider Revolts Against Out-of-Control Psychiatric Diagnosis, DSM-5, Big Pharma, and the Medicalization of Ordinary Life". Frances was the chairperson of the DSM 4 Task Force and part of the leadership group for DSM 3 and DSM 3 (Revised). But with the newly published DSM-5, Frances finds himself the leading critic of the revision and is on a passionate quest to save what is "normal." Kathryn also interviews award-winning journalist Gail Sheehy, author of "Daring: My Passages". Sheehy is the author of the New York Times bestseller Passages, one of the ten most influential books of our time. Sheehy blaxed a trail in a man's world, taking on assignments when she had no experience. She invented psychological character portraits of national and world leaders, writing about the Clintons, both Bushes, Margaret Thatcher, Saddam Hussein and more.