EPISODE · May 31, 2026 · 1H 18M
Overvaluation Meets Macro Risk: Why This Massive Asset Manager is Getting Bearish | Jim Masturzo | Research Affiliates
from Monetary Matters with Jack Farley · host Jack Farley
Learn More About Unlimited HFGM Global Macro ETF $HFGM: https://unlimitedetfs.com/hfgm In this episode of Monetary Matters, host Jack Farley sits down with Jim Masturzo, Chief Investment Officer at Research Affiliates, to discuss the changing macroeconomic landscape and the underlying flaws of the traditional 60/40 portfolio. Masturzo explains that the recent positive correlation between stocks and bonds requires investors to find true diversifiers, though he still sees tactical opportunities in trading range-bound bond yields. The conversation explores the AI-driven market narrative, with Masturzo highlighting that the U.S. market is significantly overvalued at a CAPE ratio of 40 and examining the resulting ripple effects on software stock valuations. Finally, he details his bullish conviction trade on commodities amidst severe geopolitical supply chain risks and introduces his firm's new fundamentally weighted RAFI Growth Index. Follow Research Affiliates on X: https://x.com/RA_Insights Follow Jack Farley on X: https://x.com/JackFarley96 Follow Monetary Matters on: Apple Podcast https://rb.gy/s5qfyh Spotify https://rb.gy/x56dx5 YouTube https://rb.gy/dpwxez Timestamps: 00:00 Market Overvaluation Setup 00:53 Meet Jim Masturzo 01:23 60 40 Under Pressure 02:50 Finding True Diversifiers 06:24 Why Yields Stay Bounded 11:29 Government Backstops And YCC 14:09 Fed Balance Sheet Fears 17:28 Sponsor Break HFGM 19:44 Range Intact Tactical View 25:26 Private Credit Shift Risks 28:36 Stocks Rally And AI Narrative 33:31 CAPE Valuations Explained 36:19 Earnings Growth Skepticism 39:00 AI Adoption Reality Check 45:53 AI Investing Limits 49:26 Why Earnings Forecasts Fail 54:18 SaaSpocalypse and Risk Framework 01:02:37 Valuation Multiples and GAAP Focus 01:06:44 Conviction Trades Commodities and Bonds 01:14:38 Research Affiliates and RAFI Indices 01:16:21 Fundamental Growth Index Explained
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Learn More About Unlimited HFGM Global Macro ETF $HFGM: https://unlimitedetfs.com/hfgm In this episode of Monetary Matters, host Jack Farley sits down with Jim Masturzo, Chief Investment Officer at Research Affiliates, to discuss the changing macroeconomic landscape and the underlying flaws of the traditional 60/40 portfolio. Masturzo explains that the recent positive correlation between stocks and bonds requires investors to find true diversifiers, though he still sees tactical opportunities in trading range-bound bond yields. The conversation explores the AI-driven market narrative, with Masturzo highlighting that the U.S. market is significantly overvalued at a CAPE ratio of 40 and examining the resulting ripple effects on software stock valuations. Finally, he details his bullish conviction trade on commodities amidst severe geopolitical supply chain risks and introduces his firm's new fundamentally weighted RAFI Growth Index. Follow Research Affiliates on X: https://x.com/RA_Insights Follow Jack Farley on X: https://x.com/JackFarley96 Follow Monetary Matters on: Apple Podcast https://rb.gy/s5qfyh Spotify https://rb.gy/x56dx5 YouTube https://rb.gy/dpwxez Timestamps: 00:00 Market Overvaluation Setup 00:53 Meet Jim Masturzo 01:23 60 40 Under Pressure 02:50 Finding True Diversifiers 06:24 Why Yields Stay Bounded 11:29 Government Backstops And YCC 14:09 Fed Balance Sheet Fears 17:28 Sponsor Break HFGM 19:44 Range Intact Tactical View 25:26 Private Credit Shift Risks 28:36 Stocks Rally And AI Narrative 33:31 CAPE Valuations Explained 36:19 Earnings Growth Skepticism 39:00 AI Adoption Reality Check 45:53 AI Investing Limits 49:26 Why Earnings Forecasts Fail 54:18 SaaSpocalypse and Risk Framework 01:02:37 Valuation Multiples and GAAP Focus 01:06:44 Conviction Trades Commodities and Bonds 01:14:38 Research Affiliates and RAFI Indices 01:16:21 Fundamental Growth Index Explained
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