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EPISODE · Apr 14, 2026 · 38 MIN

Owning Workers’ Comp with Kevin Ring | Lower Mods, Better Processes & Stronger Commercial Accounts

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In Episode 159 of the Scratch Agency Podcast, Stephen Turnbull and Shawn Fitzgerald sit down with Kevin Ring, Chief Experience Mod Officer at Emerge Apps and Lead Workers’ Compensation Analyst for the Institute of WorkComp Professionals, for a practical deep dive into one of the most overlooked opportunities in commercial insurance: workers’ comp.Kevin breaks down how agents can stop treating workers’ comp like a commodity and start using it as a true wedge in the sales process. From understanding the experience mod and minimum mod, to helping clients build injury response systems, return-to-work programs, and physician relationships, this episode is packed with tactical ways to create real results for commercial clients.🔍 If you’re a scratch agent trying to write better commercial business, stand out from quote-chasers, and turn workers’ comp into a true value-add for your clients—this episode is a must-listen.🕒 Timestamps:00:00 – Introduction & Meet Kevin Ring03:12 – How Kevin Accidentally Got Into Insurance06:10 – What the Institute of WorkComp Professionals Does for Agents10:18 – Where Agents Should Start with Workers’ Comp14:22 – What Brokers Can Do When a Workers’ Comp Claim Happens19:08 – Why Employers Need a Clear Injury Process Before a Claim24:11 – Using the Experience Mod as a Sales Wedge29:35 – Minimum Mod, Lost Profits & Explaining the Math Simply35:42 – Why Workers’ Comp Creates Real Exit Barriers41:05 – What Scratch Agents Should Learn First46:18 – How to Speak About Comp in the Client’s Language50:02 – Final Thoughts & Where to Connect with Kevin💼 Sponsored by HawkSofthttps://www.hawksoft.comA family-owned agency management system built to serve independent agencies with flexibility, transparency, and human-centered support.🔗 Links & Resources:📲 Join Our Telegram Community:https://t.me/+cISob2kA3pAyMmY5📸 Follow us on Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/thescratchagencypodcast🎧 Listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/7hutxCZ5NUPqF5hRdC79Hl🌐 Visit Our Website:https://scratchagencypodcast.com

In Episode 159 of the Scratch Agency Podcast, Stephen Turnbull and Shawn Fitzgerald sit down with Kevin Ring, Chief Experience Mod Officer at Emerge Apps and Lead Workers’ Compensation Analyst for the Institute of WorkComp Professionals, for a practical deep dive into one of the most overlooked opportunities in commercial insurance: workers’ comp.Kevin breaks down how agents can stop treating workers’ comp like a commodity and start using it as a true wedge in the sales process. From understanding the experience mod and minimum mod, to helping clients build injury response systems, return-to-work programs, and physician relationships, this episode is packed with tactical ways to create real results for commercial clients.🔍 If you’re a scratch agent trying to write better commercial business, stand out from quote-chasers, and turn workers’ comp into a true value-add for your clients—this episode is a must-listen.🕒 Timestamps:00:00 – Introduction & Meet Kevin Ring03:12 – How Kevin Accidentally Got Into Insurance06:10 – What the Institute of WorkComp Professionals Does for Agents10:18 – Where Agents Should Start with Workers’ Comp14:22 – What Brokers Can Do When a Workers’ Comp Claim Happens19:08 – Why Employers Need a Clear Injury Process Before a Claim24:11 – Using the Experience Mod as a Sales Wedge29:35 – Minimum Mod, Lost Profits & Explaining the Math Simply35:42 – Why Workers’ Comp Creates Real Exit Barriers41:05 – What Scratch Agents Should Learn First46:18 – How to Speak About Comp in the Client’s Language50:02 – Final Thoughts & Where to Connect with Kevin💼 Sponsored by HawkSofthttps://www.hawksoft.comA family-owned agency management system built to serve independent agencies with flexibility, transparency, and human-centered support.🔗 Links & Resources:📲 Join Our Telegram Community:https://t.me/+cISob2kA3pAyMmY5📸 Follow us on Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/thescratchagencypodcast🎧 Listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/7hutxCZ5NUPqF5hRdC79Hl🌐 Visit Our Website:https://scratchagencypodcast.com

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