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EPISODE · Sep 13, 2025 · 42 MIN

Painting compared to illustrating

from An Infinite Language · host Adam Tramantano

Why we love an idea: wonderful simultaneity. We have it but don’t. What is the difference? Is there a difference between an illustrator and a painter?   Illustration: the line tells us where one thing begins and ends. Critically and extremely important… we have to know what we’re looking at. Or do we? Another topic for another day. What is painting? We do use the line in painting. Color and value are painting’s “lines.” What is value? It’s connected to saturation. Simple definition: the color itself, with gradations of white or black added to it. The mixture of black and white and the gradations of gray in the middle. This is with or without a color added. Light and dark and all in the middle are relational considerations to that which is in the picture. They are contextual in that exact picture that you are working with. Value is an explaining tool of painting. The other explaining tool is color. Cold and warm colors.   Hawthorne on painting What I said in the podcast is the idea that “It’s all color…” That was my recollection of the idea. Perhaps he does say this. Though on skimming the book, I couldn’t find that exact statement. What he says on page 26 that is pertinent to the considerations here is, “it’s the relation of one color as it comes against another that you must see correctly.” (Page 26, Hawthorne on Painting, Dover Edition 1960, ISBN: 978-0-486-20653-0). He discusses color in many ways throughout the book. The major point is that the tools of explanation in painting are color and value.   Palm cancelation not necessary as a consideration for a painter. When I was learning in eighth grade to prepare for art high school in NYC The teacher taught us to hold the charcoal with the palm facing the surface, so that we are using the forearm more so than the hand.

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