Pings to Presence | Ché Ugwuala, Global Lead, Android Channel Partner Marketing at Google

When Ché’s kids called out the calendar for stealing their dad, he hit pause and rewrote the script: one that puts family, mental health, and meaningful work on the same page. In this episode, Jolie and Ché riff on work‑life boundaries, AI as a creativity amplifier (not a crutch), and how inpatient care can be a springboard, not a setback. If your to‑do list is louder than your loved ones, this convo will realign your priorities. Key Takeaways • Share the messy middle, not just the highlight reel • Quality time > quantity hustle: your presence is your superpower • AI should extend human creativity, not replace it • Not every ping is a fire drill • Celebrate small wins to build momentum (and protect mental health) Timestamps 00:00 Personal connections & why stories stick 05:59 Vulnerability at work: the trust accelerator 11:50 Kids, calendars & the wake‑up call on balance 18:04 Perspective check: most tasks aren’t ER‑level 23:59 AI as a time‑saver and creativity spark 28:23 Post‑break boundaries: making space to breathe 32:15 Depression, inpatient care & the climb back up 37:27 Community support and celebrating every inch forward 45:22 Turning stress into growth habits Like this one? Follow Revenue Mind, and leave a review if it hit home. It’s how more revenue leaders find the show, and how we keep mental health right next to the number. Links Ché Ugwuala: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ch%C3%A9-ugwuala-mba-1749ab21 Jolie Shapiro: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jolieshapiro/ Revenue Mind: https://www.linkedin.com/company/revenuemind/