EPISODE · Feb 17, 2026 · 34 MIN
Playing Offense With Wealth: Grant Cardone on Bitcoin, Real Estate, and Conviction
from The Pain Trade Podcast · host Michael A. Gayed, CFA
In this episode of Lead-Lag Live, I sit down with Grant Cardone for a wide-ranging and unusually candid conversation on Bitcoin, real estate, and what it really means to invest with conviction. Grant is blunt about one thing most people never admit: even after buying Bitcoin for years, he doesn’t pretend certainty. He openly talks about the discomfort of drawdowns, the difference between conviction and having a low cost basis, and why buying through volatility matters more than sounding confident online. Rather than selling a perfect narrative, he’s honest about doubt, risk, and why not investing at all is the bigger danger. From Bitcoin as a technology of money to real estate as a long-term cash-flow engine, Grant explains how wealthy investors think about scale, units, and holding assets through cycles instead of trading headlines. In this episode: – Why Grant says saving money destroys wealth – How he thinks about Bitcoin without pretending certainty – The difference between conviction and a cheap entry price – Why wealthy investors focus on units, not price – How Bitcoin and real estate play different roles in long-term wealth Lead-Lag Live brings you inside conversations with the financial thinkers who shape markets. Subscribe for interviews that go deeper than the noise. #GrantCardone #Bitcoin #WealthBuilding #InvestingMindset #FinancialFreedom #StockMarket #RealEstate #Crypto Sign up to The Lead-Lag Report on Substack and get 30% off the annual subscription today by visiting http://theleadlag.report/leadlaglive. Support the show
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In this episode of Lead-Lag Live, I sit down with Grant Cardone for a wide-ranging and unusually candid conversation on Bitcoin, real estate, and what it really means to invest with conviction. Grant is blunt about one thing most people never admit: even after buying Bitcoin for years, he doesn’t pretend certainty. He openly talks about the discomfort of drawdowns, the difference between conviction and having a low cost basis, and why buying through volatility matters more than sounding conf...
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