Politics with Michelle Grattan: Fatima Payman on the challenges and opportunities of being a crossbencher

The now-independent senator joined the podcast to discuss her decision, the challenges of regrouping as a crossbencher, and  the impact of the Muslim vote. Mentioned in this episode:Your support mattersSupport non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025The Making of an AutocratSearch: "The Conversation Weekly" for our new series. Is America watching its democracy unravel in real time? In The Making of an Autocrat from The Conversation, six of the world’s pre-eminant scholars reveal the recipe for authoritarian rule. From capturing a party, to controlling the military, Donald Trump is borrowing from the playbook of strongmen thoughout history. This is the story of how democracies falter — and what might happen next.