Public Lands and Bird Hunting with Ryan "Cal" Callaghan

Ryan is the Director of conservation at Meateater, a public lands advocate, and on the board of directors of BHA, and host of Cal's Week In Review Podcast. Ryan and myself dive in to alot of the issues that we are facing in relation to public lands. Cal does a great job of breaking down all the issues that are going on. Then we switch gears and start talking about bird hunting and his dog, Snort.