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EPISODE · Feb 8, 2026 · 1H 2M

Purpose, Business, and Kindling New Leaders with Bernie Kelly

from The Real Math of Business with Alena Bennett · host Alena Bennett

In this engaging conversation, Alena Bennett speaks with Bernie Kelly about the evolving role of boards and leadership in today's complex environment. They explore the emotional impact of vision planning, the importance of self-awareness, and the balance between efficiency and effectiveness. Bernie shares insights on the significance of lead indicators, accountability in purpose-driven organisations, and the human element in leadership. The discussion emphasises the need for agility and presence in leadership roles, as well as the importance of fostering a culture that supports growth and transformation.To reach out to Bernie:https://berniekelly.com/Chapters00:00 TPQ of the Week02:30 Introduction to Bernie Kelly and His Expertise04:05 Understanding the Evolving Role of Boards06:59 The Importance of Awareness and Discernment09:34 The Genius of the 'And' in Leadership12:19 Navigating Complex Conversations in Boardrooms14:47 The Human Element in Leadership17:44 The Shift from Control to Accountability21:20 The Role of Numbers in Leadership25:06 Lead vs. Lag Indicators in Business29:09 Becoming a Disruptor in Board Meetings31:33 Opening the Space for Difficult Conversations32:36 Lead and Lag Indicators: Understanding Their Relationship35:54 The Feed-Forward Ratio: A New Perspective39:36 The Importance of Human Connection45:35 Navigating Leadership Transitions47:34 Bernie's Journey: From Corporate to Coaching52:05 Triggers for Change in Organisations57:56 Listener Question: Understanding the Numbers in Business

In this engaging conversation, Alena Bennett speaks with Bernie Kelly about the evolving role of boards and leadership in today's complex environment. They explore the emotional impact of vision planning, the importance of self-awareness, and the balance between efficiency and effectiveness. Bernie shares insights on the significance of lead indicators, accountability in purpose-driven organisations, and the human element in leadership. The discussion emphasises the need for agility and presence in leadership roles, as well as the importance of fostering a culture that supports growth and transformation.To reach out to Bernie:https://berniekelly.com/Chapters00:00 TPQ of the Week02:30 Introduction to Bernie Kelly and His Expertise04:05 Understanding the Evolving Role of Boards06:59 The Importance of Awareness and Discernment09:34 The Genius of the 'And' in Leadership12:19 Navigating Complex Conversations in Boardrooms14:47 The Human Element in Leadership17:44 The Shift from Control to Accountability21:20 The Role of Numbers in Leadership25:06 Lead vs. Lag Indicators in Business29:09 Becoming a Disruptor in Board Meetings31:33 Opening the Space for Difficult Conversations32:36 Lead and Lag Indicators: Understanding Their Relationship35:54 The Feed-Forward Ratio: A New Perspective39:36 The Importance of Human Connection45:35 Navigating Leadership Transitions47:34 Bernie's Journey: From Corporate to Coaching52:05 Triggers for Change in Organisations57:56 Listener Question: Understanding the Numbers in Business

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