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EPISODE · Jul 10, 2026 · 1H 21M

Reconstructing Inclusion S3E11: You've Been Leading With the Box: Fred Falker on Seeing People First

from Reconstructing Inclusion Podcast · host Amri B. Johnson

Welcome to Season Three of Reconstructing Inclusion!We're not divided by differences. We're separated by distance. Fred Falker joins Amri to unpack the distance paradigm and why most inclusion work has been solving the wrong problem entirely.Fred Falker is President of Falker Consulting Group, Inc. and former Director of Workforce Development for the Saint Louis Zoo. With more than 30 years as an organizational development consultant, he has spent the past twenty-five years developing a fundamentally new approach to diversity, equity, and inclusion that goes beyond anti-racism and unconscious bias training. Instead of focusing on differences between people, Fred focuses on the distance between them and the behaviors that drive genuine connection and belonging.In this episode, Amri and Fred explore:Why we've been putting the box before the person in inclusion work [00:13:00]How the distance paradigm reframes every conflict throughout history [00:18:00]What mattering actually means and why it's the foundation of belonging [00:43:00]The specific conditions that make people feel they matter at work [00:47:00]Real inclusion work requires connection, not judgment [01:15:00]Why the field stopped questioning itself and what transformation actually requires [01:07:00]What stands out in this conversation is how Fred bridges organizational reality with human truth. He doesn't speak in diversity frameworks or awareness metrics. He speaks in halfway houses, jazz ensembles, and the cost of being seen as an object instead of a person. And somehow, it all connects to why mattering is the only thing that actually builds belonging.Guest: Fred Falker, President of Falker Consulting Group, Inc.Connect with Fred Falker: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fredfalker/If this episode resonated with you, subscribe, leave a review, and share it with someone in your organization who needs to hear it.Let's Connect:https://inclusionwins.com/https://reconstructinginclusion.substack.com/➡️ Subscribe to Reconstructing Inclusion for more unfiltered conversations about the future of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit reconstructinginclusion.substack.com/subscribe

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