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EPISODE · Apr 10, 2026 · 29 MIN

Reconstructing Inclusion S3E8: Your People Belong. But Do They Know They Matter?

from Reconstructing Inclusion Podcast · host Amri B. Johnson

Welcome to Season Three of Reconstructing Inclusion!Most inclusion conversations focus on belonging. This episode makes the case that we've been stopping short.Belonging asks: Am I welcome here? Mattering asks: Am I consequential here? You can answer yes to the first and no to the second — and when that happens, something dims inside people that is hard to recover without intentional effort. Amri unpacks this distinction through a real story, research from organizational psychologists, and a practice you can use today.In this episode:00:01:00 Introduction and why this conversation matters now00:04:00 Belonging vs. mattering: the core distinction00:06:00 Zach Mercurio's indispensability test00:08:00 The grasp reflex: mattering as a survival instinct00:10:00 The running faucet metaphor00:15:00 Emotional intelligence as the infrastructure for mattering00:17:00 The self-efficacy gap: awareness vs. agency00:19:00 Cultural intelligence and making mattering portable00:21:00 The EQ-CQ-mattering chain00:23:00 The "If It Weren't for You" practice🔥 Standout Quotes:“Most leaders I work with genuinely care about their people. But anti-mattering is rarely the result of one dramatic moment. It builds slowly, and by the time it shows up as silence or people going adrift or disengagement, the faucet has been running for a long time.” [00:11:48]“I’ve worked with highly self-aware people who couldn’t articulate their strengths clearly and consistently held back in high-stakes rooms. They just went silent, not because they lacked insight, but because they had stopped trusting that their contribution would change anything. The awareness was intact. The agency was not.” [00:17:46]#Inclusion #Leadership #Belonging #Diversity #Mattering #CulturalIntelligence #EmotionalIntelligence #CQ #EQResources Mentioned:Zach Mercurio’s work on mattering, including the “noticed, affirmed, and needed” frameworkIsaac Prilleltensky on mattering as feeling valued and adding valueGordon Flett’s research on anti-matteringDaniel Goleman’s emotional intelligence (EQ) frameworkCultural intelligence (CQ) framework by Soon Ang, Linn Van Dyne, and David LivermoreLet's Connect:https://inclusionwins.com/https://reconstructinginclusion.substack.com/➡️ Subscribe to Reconstructing Inclusion for more unfiltered conversations about the future of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit reconstructinginclusion.substack.com/subscribe

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