Rev. Todd Seelau's Pilgrimage With and Beyond the Church

In this week's episode we have the honor of interviewing Rev. Todd Silau about pilgrimage and his unique approach to ministry. We discuss the concept of pilgrimage and how it relates to being on the move and being a stranger in a new place. We also explore the idea of deconstructed ecclesiology and the importance of being a good guest when engaging with different communities.Todd shares his experiences of being on the road with his band and how it has shaped his understanding of pilgrimage. He emphasizes the significance of vulnerability and the role it plays in creating safe and brave spaces for meaningful conversations and generally the importance of intention, vulnerability, and creating sacred space. Sound Bites"A pilgrim is someone on the move.""When you change power structures around, it changes everything.""When you're a pilgrim, you're the one that needs more grace than the place and the people that you're visiting."References:Orlando's Little-While FriendsAnswering God by Eugene PetersonRev. Todd Seelau's Ministry X-ILEChapters00:00 Introduction and Background14:27 Defining Pilgrimage and Holy Ground20:08 Deconstructed Ecclesiology and Being a Good Guest27:23  The Power of Vulnerability in Ministry30:57Companions on the Pilgrimage Journey38:15 Mapping the Future of the Pilgrimage41:25 The Influence of Upbringing and Church Community48:52 Embracing New Perspectives and Taking Risks53:08 Learning from Unexpected Teachers and Stories56:15 The Power of Storytelling in Pilgrimage01:03:55 Moving Forward: Next Steps in the Pilgrimage Journey01:11:18 The Significance of the Body in Pilgrimage01:13:46 Discovering the Gold Within: The Journey of Life