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EPISODE · Jun 20, 2025 · 29 MIN

Riding with History: Jefferson, Madison, and the Journey that Shaped a Nation

from The Not Old - Better Show · host Paul Vogelzang Smithsonian

🐎 When Friendship Shapes Nations: The Untold Journey of Jefferson & Madison 🇺🇸 Ever imagine two founding fathers on horseback, pondering America's future as they ride through rugged landscapes, confronting pest infestations, cultural discoveries, and their own biases? Thomas Jefferson and James Madison did exactly that in their remarkable 1791 journey through Upstate New York and New England. 📚 Smithsonian Associate, author, historian Louis Masur explores this intriguing chapter in his compelling new book, A Journey North: Jefferson, Madison, and the Forging of a Friendship. Their trip wasn't simply about crop pests or maple syrup—it was about unity, vision, and a deepening bond that would echo throughout history. Check out Louis Masur's upcoming presentation at Smithsonian Associates! 🌳 This friendship trip had surprising encounters: from meeting a free Black farmer running a prosperous farm with white workers, to engaging Native American communities, to tackling agricultural threats like the dreaded Hessian fly. What did they truly learn about race, equality, and nationhood along the way? 🤔 Jefferson later said this friendship was "a source of constant happiness." But how did personal affection shape political strategy and influence America's path toward unity, amidst deep regional tensions and looming divisions? 🎧 Curious to learn more? Join me in an insightful conversation with Louis Masur on The Not Old Better Show Smithsonian Associates Interview Series. Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3FAbebT Let's reflect on friendship, leadership, and the powerful lessons history offers us today. 🌟 Check out Smithsonian Associates for more details:  https://smithsonianassociates.org/ticketing/programs/jefferson-madison-and-friendship

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