RSWC #247 Lauren Snyder & Joey Hamby, Attorneys On Retainer

Riding Shotgun With Charlie #247 Lauren Snyder & Joey Hamby Attorneys On Retainer   Sometimes the universe dictates the timing of doing a show. I met Lauren Snyder at Gun Rights Policy Conference in Phoenix in 2019. I was able to film a show with fellow Attorneys On Retainer employee, Sarah Riggle RSWC #189, but we didn't have time for Lauren. At GRPC in Salt Lake City in 2025, we were able to make it happen. But we also got to have Joey Hamby, one of the AOR attorneys who specializes in self defense cases. We're also able to get it out just before they have an AOR conference in Mesa, AZ, in February 2026.   Lauren first hit my radar a number of years ago. While at a Second Amendment rally in Phoenix, she connected to Cheryl Todd (RSWC #060) because they both have a vintage look. She got involved with Women For Gun Rights when it was called The DC Project.  There is a video out there of her testifying against gun bills in Arizona. But after the politician said he didn't think people should be carrying, she sat in front of him and then he had to retract what he said and told her he didn't mean she shouldn't carry. Of course, this was the first time she ever testified for anything and she was thrown right into the mix of it.    Growing up on Long Island, her family wasn't really into firearms. Working at a tattoo shop when she was young, she met a few guys who were Ron Paul libertarians. They also taught her about firearms and safety, but the process in New York was very difficult to exercise her rights. Not really knowing anything other than Democrats and voting for John Kerry in her first election, she quickly turned to the libertarians and the idea of true freedom.     Eventually, Lauren found herself living in Florida and got more into firearms. She made more friends and got into shooting and carrying. There wasn't a lot going on for any activism at the time. After meeting her now-husband on Facebook, she moved to Arizona to be with him and got much more involved. With Women For Gun Rights, she has made the trip to DC to lobby and talk with politicians. She didn't think she had a story worth sharing but she did have a stalker and that was when she started taking firearms, training, and self defense more seriously. That is the story she shares with us.    Joey Hamby has been a hunter and shooter since he was a kid. He was a junior life member of the NRA, so yeah, since he was young. He loves shooting, hunting, and going out and plinking. Since 1994, he's been practicing law. One of the things that separates AOR from other services is that they are not insurance. They are a legal team that specializes in self defense.    Over the years, he's had many interesting cases, of course. He tells us about some of them. But he really gets into why it's important to have training and knowledge if you're going to carry. There have been more than several cases they've taken where they defend someone who has the moral imperative to defend themselves or their family but end up being wrongfully charged for doing so.    We really get into things with Joey and self defense of all types. If using self defense of any type is involved, there are things that are going to happen with the defender where they're treated like the criminal until things can be sorted out. Often we think self defense is going to be cut and dry, but it can and does get messy for everyone involved. Joey does a wonderful job talking about this and some current events.    There's a lot to self defense. Everyone needs to have an attorney in their phone address book. If you don't, get one. Join a program like AOR. Meet the attorneys for that program and get to know them. You're really doing yourself a favor.    Favorite quotes: "I was a willful participant in the indoctrination into libertarianism." "I know I have physical limitations… so my ability to protect myself…are very important to me." "If we don't remain in the legislative process…these are the people who are going to erode our rights." "There's a lot of differences, but all we do is self defense." "You need to plan in advance. You also need to plan what's going to happen afterwards." "If you use a weapon in self defense, you should just expect to get arrested." Women for Gun Rights  https://womenforgunrights.org/   https://www.laurenliberty.com/ https://attorneysonretainer.us/ https://attorneysforfreedom.com/ Second Amendment Foundation https://secure.anedot.com/saf/donate?sc=RidingShotgun Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms https://www.ccrkba.org/     Please support the Riding Shotgun With Charlie sponsors and supporters.    US Law Shield Legal Defense for Self Defense. Use "RSWC" as the discount code and get 2 months for free! https://www.uslawshield.com   Patriot Mobile Use this link and get one month for free! https://patriotmobile.com/partners/rswc   Or listen on: iTunes/Apple podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/riding-shotgun-with-charlie/id1275691565