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EPISODE · Jul 23, 2025 · 33 MIN

S03 E01: Ben Hayes – How I Became Pentagram’s Newest Design Intern

from WHAT DOES YOUR MUM THINK · host Kristian Shepherd

Calling all design students, this episode is for you.We’re joined by Ben Hayes, a recent UAL Graphic Design grad who’s already interning at Pentagram and has just picked up a D&AD New Blood Pencil for his bold campaign of Jim Beam’s zero alcohol Whiskey - "Bourbnone".Ben’s journey is one every student should hear. From cold messaging top designers on LinkedIn to landing mentorships and opportunities through sheer persistence, Ben has shown how far curiosity, craft, and confidence can take you.Hosted by his longtime mentor Kristian, this conversation breaks down the real stuff: how to stand out, how to get noticed, and how to get where water can't.If you’re a student wondering what it really takes to break into the industry, and to do it big – start here.EPISODE LINKS:Ben's Website: https://benhayes.work/WDYMT SOCIAL:Instagram: /wdymt_official Spotify: /https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/wdymt

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