S1E11: You Can't Find Your Pack Until You Howl

You Can't Find Your Pack Until You HowlAfter decades of believing friendship would just happen naturally, midlife often reveals a different truth: finding your people is an intentional, soul-level pursuit. Sarah and Corinne talk about the ways we locate — and are located by — the women who feel like home. They explore Dr. Clarissa Pinkola Estés’ idea that sometimes we must howl to find our pack, and what it means to send out that call in a season of life when authenticity matters more than fitting in.They share stories of friendships that were safe harbors, and others that became painful to leave behind — the slow grief of realizing someone no longer celebrates your growth, the courage it takes to walk away, and the quiet joy of finding friends who want you to become more of yourself, not less. Together, they unpack the difference between companions who hold you small and those who expand you. From coffee dates to late-night porch talks, from women who cheer you on in your most unvarnished moments to those who sit with you through heartbreak and reinvention, this conversation is about building a circle where mutual growth, accountability, and genuine delight live side by side. Sarah and Corinne also reflect on how friendship shifts in midlife — less about quantity, more about depth, alignment, and the kind of laughter that feels like medicine.Listen in as they explore how to send out your howl, how to answer another’s, and how to honor the endings that make space for new beginnings. This episode is for anyone longing for community that feels like oxygen, for the reminder that healthy friendship is one of the most sacred relationships we get to build.To connect with Sarah or Corinne, find them on Instagram: @heysarahcarter @thesaltyshark @sarahandcorinne  For more information about Spiritual Pyro, visit www.spiritualpyro.com. Pick up your copy of the skies are full of us at bookshop.org or your favorite bookstore.