EPISODE · Jun 16, 2025 · 1H 5M
S2 E20 The Science of Addiction | Pondoff's Anonymous x No Lions Here Crossover Episode
from Pondoff's Anonymous · host Chris Pondoff, Zoë Mendenall
Crossover Chaos: The Science of Addiction Who this episode is for: Anyone who’s ever stared down their own addictions Families who don’t get why their loved one can’t “just stop” The “I’m not an addict, but I totally have addictive behaviors” crowd People obsessed with the science behind why their brains keep screwing them over Therapy nerds, recovery warriors, and dudes who need to get over being "too tough" to talk about emotions And of course — anyone who’s ever made a complete dumpster fire of their life 🎧 Crossover Chaos: The Science of Addiction — Jakob Miller x Big Panda This one’s a little different. Jakob Miller from Pondoff’s Anonymous links up with Alex “Big Panda” Kaiser for a crossover between Pondoff’s Anonymous and No Lions Here. It’s raw, unfiltered, and exactly what you’d expect when two recovering addicts sit down and try to explain the brain science behind addiction without sounding like nerdy scientists. Jakob breaks down his "Science of Addiction" class that he runs at Illinois Recovery Center — and finally records it for the masses. If you’ve ever sat in a treatment center, argued whether addiction is a disease, or wondered why you keep sabotaging your own life, this one’s for you. They cover it all: trauma, dopamine, irrational thinking, relapse symptoms, why triggers are a scam, and how to hack your own brain before it tricks you back into using. No sugarcoating. No bullshit. Just the real, uncomfortable truth about how addiction rewires your survival system and why emotional honesty might be the one thing that saves your life. 🧪 Resources Mentioned: Illinois Recovery Center — https://illinoisrecoverycenter.com No Lions Here Podcast — https://open.spotify.com/show/57389wCMh6z9aZgNqjgUSd?si=ffed6a42d19043c5 ⏱ Full Episode Breakdown: 0:00 — Intro & Crossover Explained 1:25 — Jakob's Science of Addiction class: origins & goals 5:00 — Breaking down the “disease” model: treatable, not curable 8:15 — Trauma vs. addiction: Jakob's personal story 14:00 — The switch theory: when addiction gets "turned on" 19:00 — The 4 key symptoms that predict relapse 25:00 — Obsession, self-centeredness, irrational thinking, compulsion: deep dive 32:00 — Dopamine 101: how the brain wires addiction as survival 38:30 — Functional MRI studies: your cravings vs starvation 44:00 — Cravings, urges, triggers: why most coping advice is useless 48:00 — Hacking the brain with Navy SEAL tricks & cognitive exercises 54:00 — Practicing coping skills: the only way they actually start to work 59:00 — 90-in-90 meetings: how to taper off the right way 1:03:00 — Emotional intelligence: why men must feel their shit 1:09:00 — Jakob’s personal triggers and early relapse warning signs 1:15:00 — Drug choice is irrelevant: a dopamine problem is a dopamine problem 1:21:00 — How irrational thinking nearly killed Jakob 1:26:00 — Emotional honesty and real recovery work for men 1:32:00 — Wrapping it up: facing emotions head-on to stay alive Sponsored by Illinois Recovery Center Bertarelli Cutlery
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Crossover Chaos: The Science of Addiction Who this episode is for: Anyone who’s ever stared down their own addictions Families who don’t get why their loved one can’t “just stop” The “I’m not an addict, but I totally have addictive behaviors” crowd People obsessed with the science behind why their brains keep screwing them over Therapy nerds, recovery warriors, and dudes who need to get over being "too tough" to talk about emotions And of course — anyone who’s ever made a complete dumpster fire of their life 🎧 Crossover Chaos: The Science of Addiction — Jakob Miller x Big Panda This one’s a little different. Jakob Miller from Pondoff’s Anonymous links up with Alex “Big Panda” Kaiser for a crossover between Pondoff’s Anonymous and No Lions Here. It’s raw, unfiltered, and exactly what you’d expect when two recovering addicts sit down and try to explain the brain science behind addiction without sounding like nerdy scientists. Jakob breaks down his "Science of Addiction" class that he runs at Illinois Recovery Center — and finally records it for the masses. If you’ve ever sat in a treatment center, argued whether addiction is a disease, or wondered why you keep sabotaging your own life, this one’s for you. They cover it all: trauma, dopamine, irrational thinking, relapse symptoms, why triggers are a scam, and how to hack your own brain before it tricks you back into using. No sugarcoating. No bullshit. Just the real, uncomfortable truth about how addiction rewires your survival system and why emotional honesty might be the one thing that saves your life. 🧪 Resources Mentioned: Illinois Recovery Center — https://illinoisrecoverycenter.com No Lions Here Podcast — https://open.spotify.com/show/57389wCMh6z9aZgNqjgUSd?si=ffed6a42d19043c5 ⏱ Full Episode Breakdown: 0:00 — Intro & Crossover Explained 1:25 — Jakob's Science of Addiction class: origins & goals 5:00 — Breaking down the “disease” model: treatable, not curable 8:15 — Trauma vs. addiction: Jakob's personal story 14:00 — The switch theory: when addiction gets "turned on" 19:00 — The 4 key symptoms that predict relapse 25:00 — Obsession, self-centeredness, irrational thinking, compulsion: deep dive 32:00 — Dopamine 101: how the brain wires addiction as survival 38:30 — Functional MRI studies: your cravings vs starvation 44:00 — Cravings, urges, triggers: why most coping advice is useless 48:00 — Hacking the brain with Navy SEAL tricks & cognitive exercises 54:00 — Practicing coping skills: the only way they actually start to work 59:00 — 90-in-90 meetings: how to taper off the right way 1:03:00 — Emotional intelligence: why men must feel their shit 1:09:00 — Jakob’s personal triggers and early relapse warning signs 1:15:00 — Drug choice is irrelevant: a dopamine problem is a dopamine problem 1:21:00 — How irrational thinking nearly killed Jakob 1:26:00 — Emotional honesty and real recovery work for men 1:32:00 — Wrapping it up: facing emotions head-on to stay alive Sponsored by Illinois Recovery Center Bertarelli Cutlery
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