S2-E4 On the Edge of Chaos and Order

Settin' on the porch with Max while he plays the harmonica, the guitar and Phil does a magic trick with a "looper." Sarah listens to Phil's EP love.wave.format and it leads to a conversation about art which brings new understanding. Why do artists need pain? Is it perhaps the edge of chaos and order they are seeking?Stories about nipples, Doritos, cathedral bells, and then baby Jack starts crying.Find love.wave.format on Apple and Spotify by Mr. Denton.Support the show