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EPISODE · Apr 17, 2026 · 46 MIN

S2E8 Corey-osity Unleashed with Ian Pettigrew

from Corey-osity Unleashed · host Debra & Ken Corey

Hope is a Strategy: Why Leaders Must Learn to Cultivate ItWhat do people all over the world want most from their leaders? According to Gallup's research presented at the World Government Summit, the answer is hope. Not strategy. Not vision decks. Hope. And yet almost no leadership development programme teaches it.Ian Pettigrew has spent years researching exactly this gap. In this conversation, he unpacks what hope actually is — and why it's not the same as optimism, positivity, or wishful thinking. Hope, by his definition, is a belief that the future can be better combined with knowing what you can do to make it so. That small distinction changes everything about how leaders show up, how teams perform, and why some people find a way through the hardest circumstances while others don't.This episode goes deep on the practical side: Ian's Hope Play Sheet (free at hope.tips), why toxic positivity actively undermines hope, what the Fyre Festival documentary teaches us about silencing concerns, and why some leaders have already scuppered their ability to inspire hope before any tactic can help. Ian also brings his own story — recovering from a trimalleolar ankle fracture during lockdown and training to cycle the height of Everest on an indoor bike — as a lived demonstration of the framework he teaches.If you lead people and you've ever been told to "give your team more hope" without any guidance on how to actually do it, this is the episode that fills that gap.Keywords: Ian Pettigrew, Hope, Leadership, Realistic Optimism, Hope Play Sheet, Positive Psychology, Employee Engagement, Workplace Culture, Strengths, ResilienceChapters:00:00 Introduction to Ian Pettigrew05:40 The Everest Challenge: A Journey of Hope13:32 Ian's Life Journey and Career Path23:58 Exploring the Concept of Hope28:32 Practical Tools for Cultivating Hope33:21 The Balance of Realistic Optimism38:43 Practical Steps for Leaders

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