S3 E9: What Bubbles Up in... Creative Leadership!

In this very special episode, Barry and Phil are joined by none other than Jesse James Garrett, co-founder of formative UX Design agency Adaptive Path and author of the seminal book, "The Elements of User Experience". Jesse takes us through his journey from designer, to entrepreneur, to business leader, to corporate executive, and finally to his current pursuit of providing Creative Leadership coaching. We discuss why being a Creative Leader is different than other types of leadership, the dynamic between team-leading and team-building, and, on the 1-year anniversary of his infamous FastCo article, what attributes do and do not make for great creative leadership today. This is an inspiring and hopeful conversation with one of the true luminaries of the design world. Enjoy! Drinks: Lawson's Finest Liquids Triple Sunshine Imperial IPA, Dogfish Head Brewing Co. Slightly Mighty Low-Cal IPA, Blackhammer Brewing Zoom Room Romance Belgian Tripel Links:  Leadership Coaching: https://jessejamesgarrett.com/ Podcast: https://findingourway.design/ Books: https://www.amazon.com/Elements-User-Experience-User-Centered-Design/dp/0735712026 The FastCo Article: https://www.fastcompany.com/90642462/ux-design-is-more-successful-than-ever-but-its-leaders-are-losing-hope