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EPISODE · Mar 5, 2026 · 33 MIN

S4E4: Therapist Drift. Skill or laziness? | Dr Gracie Mclaven

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S4E4: Therapist Drift. Skill or laziness? | Dr Gracie MclavenEPISODE SUMMARYIs “therapist drift” a mark of incompetence, or creative clinical freedom? In this episode, Dr. Gracie McLaven sits down with Dr. Natalie Stott to deconstruct the practical realities of blending therapy models, from DDP to EMDR and ACT, in a world obsessed with protocols and evidence bases.The conversation sidesteps the usual platitudes, digging into the messy, human reality of clinical practice, where intuition meets integration and sometimes, the best work happens outside the boxes.Expect a wry look at the NHS, a nod to the limits of randomised controlled trials, and some honest discussion about how to find your therapeutic style amid ever-mounting pressures on frontline services.KEY TAKEAWAYSUsing multiple therapy models isn’t always “drift”—sometimes, it’s exactly what complex cases require.The relationship between therapist and client can be more important than rigid protocol adherence.Formulating cases can be fluid—messy minds need not stick to neatly drawn CBT diagrams.Short-term models like CBT aren’t always containing enough for intense trauma work.There are risks in assuming the evidence base is neutral; cultural bias and financial motivations play a role.Feedback cycles with clients—check-ins, reviews, testimonials—are key to knowing whether you’re actually helping.Regular, varied supervision is crucial for independent or integrative practitioners.Guest Information:Dr. Gracie McLavenClinical psychologist in private practice, with a wide-ranging background in attachment, trauma, and integrative work. Known for her reflective, relationship-focused approach to therapy and strong views on what makes therapy effective.Social media:Website: https://brainbodywealth.co.uk/Resources mentioned:** Check out Mastering Therapy’s Youtube Channel for all podcast episodes **For notification on up coming episodes and for occasional summaries of tools discussed on the podcast sign up here: www.masteringtherapy.comTo recommend a topic you’d like to hear about, or if you’d like to appear on the podcast please get in touch at www.masteringtherapy.com/guestFor private psychology services and therapy visit www.drnataliestott.com*****Subscribe to the Mastering Therapy Podcast YouTube channelFollow Mastering therapy on instagramConnect with Dr Natalie Stott on LinkedInSUPERVISOR PLATFORMSupervisor Platform is an online directory designed for therapists, psychologists, counsellors, and other mental health professionals to connect with qualified clinical supervisors. It makes it easy for practitioners to browse, compare, and contact supervisors based on their expertise, approach, and availability, while giving supervisors a professional space to showcase their services.Supervisor Platform (with 3 months free trial code 'WELCOME3')To search for a new supervisor visit HEREFor free resources on supervision visit HEREDisclaimer: The Mastering therapy podcast and the information provided by Dr Natalie Stott (Dclinpsych, HPCP reg), is solely intended for informational and educational purposes and should only be used by qualified professionals. Mentioned in this episode:MASTERING THERAPY WORKSHOPSGet your name on the list to be the first to hear when these workshops go live! https://www.masteringtherapy.com/workshopsGuide

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