. What up, mom? Put down that coffee and grab a wine. Get ready for another episode of Nursing and Cursing, a parenting podcast that covers more shit than your baby's full diaper. I'm Kate. I'm a stay-at-home mom of three in Brooklyn, New York. I'm trying to figure out whether I should go back to work, have another baby, or spend the rest of my life waiting for my fresh direct order. Hey, I'm Christine, a video editor and a mom of two living in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Allie here, podcasting up in the mountains in South Kona, Hawaii. I work as a real estate agent and a mom of two boys. Hey, I'm Molly. I'm a teacher raising two kids in St. Augustine, Florida. And I'm Sarah, a new mom to one sweet babe living in Brooklyn, New York. Between five busy households, it's a miracle we make it on the mic at all.
But trust me, we need this as much as you do. Critty and Allie. Heyo. Hey, girls. Hey. Hey, everybody. Welcome to Nursing and Cursing. It's just the three of us tonight. Oh, dang. Yeah. Kate's got an apartment. Her water went out this morning and hasn't been back. Oof. And Sarah's got a puking baby. Oh, dang it. Dang it. Too down. Too down. We're going to miss those girls tonight. I know. Yeah, we are. Gosh, we really toyed at the last minute of like switching up the topic and just doing some kind of, I don't even know what. It's just that. What? A personal, personal dinks reunion. That was the name of our club when we were in middle school.
Just a walk down memory lane. Not even middle school. You were in fifth grade. Yeah, but, you know, that sums it up. Sixth and eighth was the next year. You're right. Yeah. But, yeah, it's true. Fifth grade. Molly, you were, what, seventh? Yeah. I was in seventh, yeah. And we lived on the same street. We did. We did.
Yeah. Wow. Good times. Great times. We would plan each other's birthday parties, you guys. I'm remembering Allie and I saved up our babysitting money for Gritty's maybe 13th or was it 12th? 12th probably. 12th maybe? Well, I think it was 13th. But anyway, without our parents' help, we hired a limo.
It was, but looking back, it was more like a Cadillac. It was shit. It smelled so bad of cigarette smoke. But the way you guys got me to come outside is you go, come outside, Natasha graffiti the yard. What? Who's Natasha? Our neighbor? She was our neighbor. And she used to like, just, they would like spray paint and stuff in the yard and it drove my dad crazy. And it's just like a thing. My dad, my dad would just obsess over all the neighbors.
Just kidding. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. But anyway. And then we also cashed in a couple 20s for just a bucket full of quarters. Quarters. We had a bucket of quarters waiting and Dr. Pepper in cans. And we had the limo take us over to the arcade, which was Gritty's favorite, and then downtown to pizza. Oh, my God. And we were, oh, guys, and we were rolling through downtown making people roll down the windows. Do you have any grave pupon? What? No, but my question is, why was our parents, where were our parents?
A limo driver when you're 12 years old that just whisks you away for the night? Yeah, that's kidnapping. Well, yeah, because it wasn't even a limo. It was like a weird old man in a Cadillac. No, it wasn't a limo, but it was. It was. It was. It was just amazing. And we were just, that was a great birthday. Thanks, guys. Okay, Molly and I, we had a pool, but what? For some reason that wasn't good enough. We like to get on our bikes and ride it over to the neighborhood hotel and jump the fence and swim in their pool. Drop it. Why? Drop it. Stop. We're all going further. But we had a pool. Why did we have to do that?
I don't know. But listen, I'm going to bring this one back to nursing and cursing. Probably years later. Like 80 years later. Now we're adult grown women. And tonight's topic has been born out of just like, I don't know, what I'm dealing with on a damn daily basis. I do not know how to solve this problem. What the fuck is up with other people just handing out treats to your kid that you don't agree with? That's a really hard one. That's a really hard one.
It is really intense. It happens all the time here. Frequent, frequent treats. And I'm talking level 10 treats such as candy corn, Snickers, Twizzlers, Airheads. Yeah. On the daily. So like how? Okay. So in our situation, it's coming from school.
I have a real problem with that. Why? Is that a school? I don't understand why a school is a place for that. First of all, they should have to ask. You cannot assume that the mom and dad wants their kids fed that total shit. That's on our watch, not on theirs. It's little things like, you turned in your homework, here's a candy corn. I'm like, really? Is that necessary? These little fuckers are stoked on a sticker. I know because I'm a teacher. Hit them with a sticker on their hand. They are so proud.
Right. From a teacher's perspective, too, why would you want to do that? Because. Have a crash in the energy. Exactly. That's like a drug. So why would they want to do that? I think because it's not huge amounts. Like today in my class, we had a kid with a birthday and there was a cookie cake and that is a sugar crash. Everybody gets a piece and it is insane. And then everything goes south. That's why you got to wait till the end of the day, blah, blah, blah. But this is just tiny little.
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And he's coming out with these gold coins. And I'm like, what's this? And they are these coins you get if you are being extra good. And what do you do with the coins? You turn them in. He goes into some back room and it's so magic. And the front desk lady is the best, sweetest lady. And he's coming out with candy. And the crazy thing is, Goldie gets to go with him. Oh, the baby. And she's too coming out with like Twizzlers and a big old grin on her face. So it's been pretty intense lately. And now when we pull into his school parking lot, she starts crying for candy.
And I'm like, are you serious? There's tears. So, of course, I'm sure there's – first of all, guys, we have to acknowledge the fact that we have gotten bad reviews and hate mail. Yeah, because of this type of a thing that we do. Because some listeners feel, and you guys are totally – Correct. Allowed to feel this way and correct. That we as a group, or some of us, but mostly as a group, that we are food shamers. But we have a right to be fucking pissed about candy being handed out. It's a dental issue. Oh, how about you guys? How about our, we used to go to a dentist here in Oklahoma that after we left, they would hand out lollipops. Oh, good job. Sugar for sucker. Use a sucker. Hell no, those little dum-dums. Dum-dums. Are you fucking kidding me?
Okay, so that's either they're extremely fucking stupid, and that's so stupid, or they're fucking brilliant. And they know that by feeding you the sugar, they're going to be in business for a very long time. It's so confusing to me. We stopped going to that dentist, needless to say. But bizarre. Bizarre. Yeah, when Levi was in daycare here, same thing. Molly, they would be on the playground, and they would just throw candy corn at them on the playground.
if they had good behavior just a reward it was so weird okay so i have another situation too okay so this one this one's not as bad except i just turned a blind eye to it um So love, love, love his teacher. And the way that she runs her classroom and she's been doing it for years is there was a snack parent every day. So I don't pack him a snack. I was used to doing that in his preschool, but he just gets his lunchbox. There's nothing, no snacks. So once a month I will be in charge of getting snack for the whole class. So every day it's a different parent. And so I'll ask him and it's just, it's totally fine. It's just not the snacks that we.
Bye. I know I sound like a food changer. Okay. I don't even want to bring up like what it is because people are going to be like, oh my God, shut the fuck up. But. It's like goldfish and cheddar rub. Cheetos? Krispy treats and. Right.
The sugary stuff, you know, like. Just sugar bombs. So it's not what I would choose. Not what I would choose for him. Totally what I would choose for myself. So every day I ask him, you know, oh, what did you eat? And then in his after school program, they also hand out snacks. Oh, what were the choices today? A donut, a honey bun, or an apple. I'm like, oh, what did you go for? Donut. Of course. Who's choosing the apple? Nobody. Well, okay. Not next to a donut. It's just really confusing. It's like the educators are not educated. No, that's not true.
No, they just don't care. It's not okay. It's not a kid. Yeah, I guess. I don't know why you would want to see any kid that.
In a public school setting, it's fucked up. My guess is because it's cheap, it's easy, and they know there will be no complaints. Yay, donuts. Okay. Everyone's happy with that. They're not going to get any shit like, man, I got to eat a fill in the blank. Right. It's cheap is probably the one. Because if they only had two options of fruit every single day, all the kids would still get a snack and they'd probably be pumped on the snack. That's all that was available. But the leftovers would go bad and they would lose money doing that. Right. It comes down to money, of course. Everything. Same as like, right, of course.
gmo and everything else in the way that our country farms it all fucking comes down to money and it's really sad so yeah like how do you deal with it so then um so i was talking to one of his little friends at a school event and i don't even know how i asked her but it turns out like she was like oh we're not my family's not allowed to eat that we only eat organic food um so no i guess augie told me yeah this little girl she only eats organic food and so her parents pack the snack not a huge deal if i were a teacher and a family was like oh we're gonna handle it right this goes back to me standing up for my kid and like not wanting to come across as the weird parent or the high maintenance parent yeah but i'm gonna say this that's interesting because when okay when levi was at that daycare i was telling you about they had an option to pack your lunch or we'll feed them lunch and the lunch was absolutely disgusting like mind-blowingly not good for you really disgusting snap like a rice krispie treat with a greasy like fake meat just really fucking gross anyway Okay, guys, I'm not going to food chain, but all I'm going to say is there wasn't, like, a fruit or a vegetable. It was just, like, spam or something. It was just disgusting. Anyways, I would send a regular lunch. Not to say my lunch was badass, but it just was a little step up. And Levi was embarrassed. He'd be like, everybody else gets to eat a hot lunch. I don't want to eat your lunch. I don't want it. He had FOMO. Mad FOMO.
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So by third grade now, Phoenix, the beginning of the school year has been like, it's so embarrassing. I'm like, what's embarrassing? My lunch is so embarrassing. And you guys, I don't pack him very healthy food. I pack him the same shit that you pack, which every fucking yuppie American that lives on the coast that shops at Whole Foods gives their kid. It's maybe is organic, but it doesn't necessarily mean it's healthy. They're getting crackers and snacks and chips and whatever.
fruit leathers, sugar. Anyway, it's so embarrassing. It's so embarrassing. And I'm like, what are you talking about? My Tupperware and my containers are so embarrassing and it's only organic food. And I'm like, oh God, okay. I'm sorry, but it's just the way it is. Okay. Yeah. It's hilarious. Yeah. So what do you do? Do you guys have any situations where it comes from within your own family?
Oh yeah. My mom is visiting right now, Molly. And she is just was telling, is that what you mean? Yeah. Okay. So mom's here and she was telling me a story about yesterday or the day before where she picked the kids up, your kids, took them to the beach, where you want to go. They shouted Dunkin' Donuts. So she was like, great. And then both of them were chanting at her. We don't want a munchkin. We don't want a munchkin. We don't want a munchkin. We want a whole donut. And she's like, so of course I got them a whole donut. I'm like, okay. Gram, gram. Yeah. You must tell them not to tell.
Oh, yeah. Because they didn't say shit to me. Yeah, I'm like, you know, they live there now, Mom, so you kind of got to get on board. You can't be taking them to Dunkin' Donuts every day if that's what Molly doesn't want. If it's okay, obviously, who gives a shit? But it's more about respecting the parent, right? That's really what this is down to. It's a very personal choice. You wouldn't give a child Tylenol, I hope, without asking. Or you wouldn't give...
i'm just trying to think of an example here the food that we feed our children is so personal and it can be so important to you what you're actually putting in your kid besides like allergies and shit you know they're so well that's the big one yeah yeah and yeah i go back to the teeth like i'm just stressing it on the teeth man I'm just kind of like, you know what? I'll feed my kids candy and give them treats, but I won't be the one to do it. Don't send me crashing on a sugar high from candy. Like that's my, that's supposed to come out of my back pocket when I want to bribe them or something. And if you've already blown out at school, I can't do it. It's not fair. Don't you feel that way? Like I had that as a trick. That was going to be my pre-dinner bribe. That's right. It should always be saved for mom. Like I get fucking pissed when Pete does it. Cause I'm like, I'm spending most of the time with them. You can't blow a big treat on the 30 minutes that you're spending with them today because I got to come up with.
something like you know yeah for sure let's just my choice exactly let's just need to be the parent's choice yeah but i do if it's it's interesting because if it's if it's like playdate style which is rare for us for like at a friend's house i don't i don't care me neither I mean, I cringe a little bit, but I don't do anything about it, and I don't want to be rude, and I don't really care, you know? But if it's a public establishment, that does make me super annoying. It's shocking. I didn't expect this. It does tie into my fail today, too. Okay. Oh, gosh. I'm sorry, guys, if we just food shamed the shit out of people. I hope we're not coming across that way.
You know why it's imbalanced? Kate would set us straight. Kate would be very helpful. She'd be like, guys, fucking loosen up. Right. Not if it's important. Right. I don't know. It's true. It's maddening, though, when somebody else.
You have your kid. Yeah, whatever. It's okay. Whatever. I'm sorry. I'm pretty vocal to my in-laws about this kind of stuff. Oh, yeah. That's hard. Their houses are just like, you know, a dream. A dream. It's a kid's dream, the level of snackage there. And Levi throws them under the bus all the time. So-and-so pulled into Sonic and got me a lemonade and offered me an ice cream cone. And then I'll be like, oh, did that really happen? Mom, don't tell. Mom, don't tell. Seriously, mom. Mom, don't tell.
He throws them under the bus all the time. It's amazing. That is hilarious. Offered me an ice cream, but I didn't take it. Well, I maybe had a French fry. I maybe had a French fry. That's amazing. All right. No fail, go. All right. Well, actually today, as we roll up to school.
I'm sorry, Grady. I'm just, why is your, okay, sorry. As we roll up to school, Goldie's like, candy? In her cute little voice. And I'm like, no. And she just starts having to fit. Well, Augie comes out with his coin. And I was just like, damn this coin. I hate this coin. I'm like, that's what I said. So in front of the lady, I was like, Augie, hey, maybe today you choose a not candy item if there is anything like that. I don't know if anybody's listening. He comes out and she, Goldie trails and they each come out with their candy.
Goldie always chooses Twizzler. Allie, she knows. She's such a McCann. Of course. Great taste. She's gripping her Twizzler. And I explain, okay, guys, we are not eating these until after dinner. And so we had to go to Target for a few things. But the fit was so gigantic about that because she doesn't understand that. And she ends up like gripping the Twizzler in the car and rubbing it against her face and sucking her fingers, which is what she does.
She's trying to use the Twizzler and a wrapper to comfort herself. And this piece of candy just kept resurfacing as a problem all evening long and was giving just level 10, level fucking 10 fits. And in the target line, there was such a long line. She wound up her arm. She was frustrated about something I said no to. Wound up her arm and hit me across the face so hard. You guys, I saw stars. Oh, shit. Very typical these days. She does this all the time. Last week I got like a cut on my eye. But she's violent.
yes she's fucking violent with me and I look around and the line everybody is so uncomfortable the cashier is like can't look me in the eye and I'm just trying to handle it I don't it just felt like publicly abused and having to just keep the smile on I just like really hard the worst all of the voices in my head were like wow they think that you just let her hit you across the face and it's no big deal oh you The voice on my shoulder, whatever. Well, I'm sorry. I'm actually, Matilda does the same and I'm really glad to hear what's happening to you because I'm like, did we do something wrong? Is something wrong with her? She's evil. She's like a hitter. She's a hitter and a scratcher. Same. Yeah. Hit her and a scratcher. My face. She's punched my nose. That was Leo. You guys, it's like second child. I don't know why.
Because they're just offending for what they want at all times, maybe. Yeah, right. And they've actually kind of been abused from early on from the sibling. Okay. She has seen, I mean, Augie throws fits. She's seen it all. She has seen it all.
Advanced. They're exposed. Potty talk starts really early with the second kid. Oh, yeah. I feel like Matilda's fourth word was butthole. Oh, God, same. It's so hot in our house. Look at my butthole. My kids love ball sacks. Ball sacks is another one, Ellie. Plural it. Ball sacks. Ball sacks. Ball sacks and butthole. They're sacks. They just call it my sacks. That's really, really funny.
Levi just like whips it out now, by the way. His satch or his whole junk? The whole unit, the whole package. He'll be like, hey guys, look, and he'll have the whole package out to like his grandma. We're like, buddy, buddy, buddy, put it away, put it away, put it away. That's so embarrassing. But my nail is that the deed is done over here. My husband is snipped. Oh, wow. Yes. How was his recovery? Wow. Yeah. The recovery was, in my opinion, totally fine. 24 hours down with ice. Yeah.
And sore, but nothing I really noticed. Wonderful. Okay. Congratulations, girl. This is humongous. Yeah, they say 30 ejaculations. That's directly on the paperwork, 30. So I'm sure he has an Excel spreadsheet gone already. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Is he trying to go like multiple times a day just to get it done? Oh, I don't think he's there yet, Ali. It's still sore. Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah. Probably a couple weeks down in that department.
yeah a couple weeks for sure like you can't go for jogs or anything can't still can't lift until the stitches are like dissolved um and yeah but goldie has like kicked him in the balls like three times it's like she knew he walked away from her tonight he was like i'm done and i heard him say to her you cannot kick me in the crotch and if you want to sit in your own filth that's fine because he was changing her diaper and he walked away I don't give a shit. I'll keep this diaper on all my life. I am looking at the comments from our vasectomy episode. And one of our friends just wrote, I do have a friend who had baby number three after her husband had a vasectomy. He missed the follow-up appointment and his grew back. Yeah. Much of that. I mean, as we've said. Oh, she is. Yes, she is. Okay. Yeah. I'll spread cheat galore.
But one lady on there said specifically that her doctor asked him for 50 ejaculations. So like that. Why is there so much different? Yeah, it's a lot of different. Did I tell you? They called me into the room after and he was he was laying on the bed and he had like spread eagle. Yeah. And he had like his like a paper over himself. Okay. A post it or like a like a sheet.
A paper sheet. A paper sheet. Can I just tell you? The smell in the room was burn. Burning. I was so freaked out. I almost did a U-turn. I was like, what's going on in here? Why do I smell burning? And Tim was like, oh, that's part of it. They burn it. I was freaked out. And he says to the nurse, it was so awesome.
So like, I'm like about two to three days down. Right. And she cackle laughed in his face and was like, who told you that? No, seriously. Who told you that? It's 24 hours and that's it. You will be fine. I was like, Oh my God, I love, I can love her. Yep. That's great. That is great. All right. Congrats, girl. Long road ahead, but you guys can start fucking with freedom. Yeah. Two more years. You could start fucking with freedom. Once we get through those 30 ejaculations.
that I will like, I will donate too. Yeah. Oh God. Well, I got a nail. I turned 38 last week.
Happy birthday. Oh my God. We're getting up there. Aren't we girls? So every time you guys say that, I'm just like, Oh God. So I decided my friend also was turning 38 the same week. So we were like, let's do something together. Let's do a party. So we decided to make it really simple and do it down at the beach. A ladies night. Great. It's kind of a secluded beach. And we just sent out a text. Like we will be there. We want to have a fire and maybe we'll jump in the water and it's going to be a great time. See you at six or whatever.
That was it. There was no planning. We got down to the beach and you know how moms roll, you guys. They're like superheroes. They're like superheroes. A mom that gets a night off. Oh my gosh. Making it happen. Like we each had like a big backpack or moms were coming with like a suitcase and rolling it onto the beach and the string lights started going up in the trees. And then my friends were walking down and I was like, what does she have right now? Is she carrying a keg? It was a huge barrel, a trash barrel that she was marching in with like another woman. It was filled to the brim with firewood.
for a huge fire. Okay. Oh my God. Okay. Another one came with a big suitcase and I'm like, this is so heavy. Oh my gosh. Let me help you with this. Uh, she pops up a table and then the bottles and bottles and bottles of alcohol are coming out of the suitcase. We have full bar. Oh, it was like in the middle of nowhere. Um, had an impromptu rager. Basically had an impromptu rager. It was better than any bachelorette party you could ever imagine because you don't need your freedom when you're 25 years old. But when you're a mom with young kids at home and you get an invite like this, ladies only, it was like witches dancing under the moon. It was fucking insane.
amazing you can't even you can't imagine it was so freeing my other friend came with like a bunch of avocados and i was like oh are we gonna make guacamole like what's going on she's like nope everybody open one up we're rubbing them all over our bodies and then we're coming in the water so we took the avocados rubbed them all over our face all over our skin all over everything jumped in the water for moisturization or what yes oh my gosh it's pretty fabulous it's a lifestyle it's a lifestyle so amazing the fireballs came out my friends were spinning fire i was like what the fuck yes okay and then like a prayer comes on and we're just hollering we're completely drunk at that point just hollering under the moon singing madonna and if it was you had to walk onto it nobody was on the beach and then it suddenly was just like a bunch of women moms going crazy it was so fun who knew that wow much better than what was better What was that? That or when we picked Critty up in the limo. Equal. Equal.
Allie, that's the best. It was insane. It was insane. And we couldn't, our faces hurt so badly because none of us could wipe the smile off of our faces. We just could not believe it was happening. We couldn't believe it. It was so fun. Yeah. Could have been there. Leave it to the moms. And my fail is, oh, my mom's here. And we had to roll up another rug because my cats got into the boys' room. And for days, I've been pissing all over it. You guys, the blue one, my really nice one. I'm just throwing money in the trash just over and over and over and over and over. Well, I know something else you could throw in the trash, but you know me.
Yeah, I know. I don't have rats on my countertop. I'm with Molly on that one. I am questioning. Is rat droppings better or worse than cats? Can you get a rat?
You know, rats running around on your roof at night. And then you wake up in the morning and there's cat shit all over your counter. Rat shit, not cat shit. Rat shit, rat shit all over the counter. So you know they were there. I've had that in years because the rats, I mean the cats, keep it under control. But I lost another rug and I'm tired of it. I'm sad. I'm so sorry, girl. That sucks.
damn well fuck I have no nails do I have any nails guys I don't think I do um I have a fail okay so lately I don't know you'll have to stop me if I've said this one already that Levi's been asking me so much lately um how you make a baby just really how do you make a baby how how how and I said one day we're driving and I said my mom a man and a woman make love and that's how you make a baby And he's like, what does that mean? Make love. And I'm driving and I'm just so dumb. I mean, he's five. I just was like, screw it. I'm just going to tell him. And I just said, well, a man puts his penis in the woman's vagina and they make a baby. And then the car goes silent in my head. I'm like, what the fuck did you just say? What is wrong with you? You know, I'm like beating myself up. And the car is dead silent. He makes no sound for so long. And then finally he goes, mom. And I'm like, yeah. He goes, that's really disgusting.
And now he just walks around and he's like, and I think I sent you a video like, oh, are you and daddy going in the bathroom to make a baby? You're going to put your vagina in his penis. Oh my God. Dang it. He's just obsessed now. Okay, wow. I thought I was just, I don't know. Does he say, tell Matilda, mom, mom, tell Matilda how you do it. Because that's, Leo will be, I mean, Phoenix will be like, let's tell Leo, Leo, come on, gotta tell Leo. Oh, well, that was great. Tilda was in the car when I told him, when I dropped this truth bomb on him. Okay, okay, cool. She's not getting it. She didn't quite get it, no. She didn't quite get it, but he's obsessed.
I have similar stories. I wonder if we should do an episode about this. Yeah, we could. He goes, and then after that, you kiss. Yeah, pretty much. That is kind of how it goes these days. Good Lord. If there's a kiss at all. But guys, what's wrong with me? He's fine. Why did I have to take it there? I took it there. I took it there recently. Tell him the truth about it. Because, in my opinion, that's the right place to take it. Because if you just say it, it's out there. Guess what?
I was trying to be weird about it. Like, this is what happens. Yeah, it's going to be shocking if he's eight. It's going to be shocking if he's 11. It's going to be shocking when he hears it from somebody else. So I might as well just say it. I said it straight, too. And Augie said, because I had this conversation at least a year ago. And so it came up again. And I'm like, you don't remember us talking about this? No. So I told him. And he was like, but, like, for how many hours does the penis have to stay in the vagina? About two. Oh, my God. I hope not. Oh, my God. What the fuck?
oh man you're like only in the beginning stages of the relationship when you're 24 you're like only the first mother too and then right oh god I was like no no no it's very quick it's very very quick it's usually two to four minutes two to four minutes oh gosh all right well I miss the other ladies tonight but I sure love talking to y'all yeah yeah I love you guys love y'all okay all right so I guess we need a little jingy jangle huh Hey, you guys. Thanks for listening and for staying on with foodchambers.net. And we will see you guys next week. And we love you so much. Bye, girls. Okay, that's it for now. We'll see you next week for another nursing cursing where sleep is more valuable than fast, hard cash.