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Perhaps it's you. Perhaps it's not. Hello, everyone. Hi. We're bringing back our new jingle. Our old jingle. Perhaps it's not. Perhaps it's the mayor of your town. This is your favorite unofficial Unsolved Mysteries rewatch podcast. My name happens to be Liz. Mine happens to be Samantha. We're here today to talk about the show that traumatized you as a child and made you the amateur detective that you are today. Everyone's favorite Unsolved Mysteries. The original Robert Stack episodes, please.
Yeah, don't give us any of that Dennis Freena bullshit. No, no thanks. Which are just the same mysteries but with blurry Google Maps added. No one needs that. How are you doing this week?
You know what? It's been a better week than most. I don't want to jinx it. I'm not going to say too much. But a strange hope has fallen over the land. The United States is in a more optimistic position than it's been in recent history. The internet is amazing right now. The internet? My Twitter feed. Look, do I spend far too much time on Twitter every day scrolling? And it's miserable every day. I don't know why I do it. I'm sure there's some psychology behind the dude scroll that I don't understand. Whatever. Except the last few days. I've actually enjoyed.
It's like a party. It's like a girl that laughs. Yeah. It's exciting. The memes are on fire. I just.
I was talking to a friend of mine on Friday and I was like, this is the best day for us to be talking because I'm in such a good mood. And she was like, are you joking? Because I'm sure that doesn't sound like me. And I was like, no, I'm just glowing with happiness. I'm so happy. The possibilities right now, we don't know what's going to happen, but the possibilities are really endless. And that hope just burns so bright in my heart. It feels good. It feels good. We also got our fall Animal Crossing update. Oh my God, yes.
fading on Animal Crossing where I was like, I don't, you know, I don't know. What am I doing with my life? Why am I always on Animal Crossing? And then they were like, did you know you could grow pumpkins? And I was like, holy shit, I'm back. Take all of my time. I get to grow pumpkins and I don't know what color they are until they grow. I'm in. Hell yeah. And then I can make things out of those pumpkins. Bitch, sign me up. All kinds of spooky stuff to put around your Animal Crossing island. Look, if you are not already a member of our Animal Crossing group on Facebook, you should join because we're going to do a meetup. We're going to have a costume party in Animal Crossing. It's going to be lit. You're going to want to be there.
I need every single one of the like fall spooky DIYs. So I think we need a band together and get like some trades going or something. Because if I miss even one, I'm going to be furious. Every time now that I get a DIY and it's not pumpkin related, I'm like, this is garbage. What is this? This is bullshit. I don't want this message in a bottle. Go back in the ocean. No, thanks.
Yeah, you're right. We really do need to team up and share. Make sure we all have a good, like, we're going to be able to make a pumpkin carriage? What? Yeah. This game has our number. I mean, listen up, everyone. Doesn't this sound very exciting? Growing digital pumpkins? There's just a bunch of people in a boardroom at Nintendo being like, we know what these people want right now. Yeah. They are sad. They are lonely. They are battling several types of depression. What can we bring to the table? Pumpkins. Yeah. It's like, thank you, Nintendo. Thank you. How are your actual pumpkins doing, Samantha? I know you're growing some.
The actual pumpkins did not really grow. I planted them too late was my issue. Time got away from me this spring and I did not get them in the ground early enough. I do have two watermelon that I need to go check today because we had a frost last night and I'm not sure. if they made it i think i may have to pick i may be forced to pick the watermelon today and i don't know if they're ripe yet so that will be disappointing because i slaved over this watermelon all along and i did plant that one early enough it just was a bitch and didn't want to grow for like several months this summer and then it ended up giving me two whole watermelon i don't know if other people grow watermelon and have the same experience as my first year but this plant is gigantic it is huge it's taking up like half my yard it's just like a monster plant and off this whole plant i got two watermelons Maybe it's one of those things that the first year you don't get that much and each subsequent year is better. Maybe. Some plants are like that. Someone tell me the secret to growing watermelon because I love to eat watermelon. But the work reward ratio and also the space required to grow this thing if I'm only going to get two watermelon is not, I think, super worth it. But yeah, those didn't do so hot. But you learn something every year you garden. I mean, I don't think I do learn something, but the potential is there. Sure.
There's always Google. Yeah. I got a cold frame so that I could, like, in theory, maybe have some greens into the winter. But I really don't know how to use it. And I'm super intimidated by it for some reason. So I was probably just going to sit there. I think you just need to throw some seeds in there. You're not going to. You can't really. There's nothing to lose. Yeah. I put some Swiss chard plants in there. That's all that's in there right now. And I was like, well, maybe they'll last in the cold or maybe they won't. We'll see.
I did get a book about like how to use it. But for some reason, the whole thing is like, I've like already convinced myself I can't do it. So it's one of those things. I know what you mean completely. Yeah. Well, we are actually here to talk about Unsolved Mysteries. Do we have any updates? I don't. No. I don't think so. Go buy those posters. I guess it's just a reminder is that our Teespring store is live now. We have two posters available. And shortly here, I think we're going to have some other items. So keep checking back if you want some merch. The posters are great.
They look so nice. I'm actually very happy with them. And by the time you're listening to this, the Robert Stack poster giveaway is over. So you missed out if you didn't enter that. Cry yourself a single tear. But congratulations to whoever. Future person is going to win that giveaway. Congrats in advance. Good for you. Thanks for entering. Okay. We are actually on the last episode of season five. It's episode 24. A lot of episodes, man. We work hard for this podcast. I watched it on YouTube yet again. Ad free. No complaints there.
It's working out great. Yeah. We don't need you, Amazon. We've moved on. Samantha has our first mystery. This is, I'm going to say, right off the front, not the happiest episode. Pretty dark. This is a dark episode. There is one segment that we're going to enjoy talking about, but the other ones are dark and weird. And bleak. And I mean, I feel so much hope, just generally. But then there's this episode. And this episode won't give you a lot of hope. It's going to give you the opposite feelings of that. So if you're going to watch it, I want to make sure that you get a cuddly blanket, maybe some tea.
you know, take care of yourself because this is not going to put you in a better place. There's no clown alley in this episode, I must say. I knew as we were watching it, like there's no way they're going to top it. I wish they had finished the season out on that high note. And this is, this isn't a bad episode, but it's a grim episode. Yeah. That's a good way of putting it. So this first one is a lost love. I don't know why I always get the last love. I think it's just, you always get treasure and you always get lost love. And that's just the way the cookie crumbles. I don't know why. That's the fates, the fates at work.
I don't know if anyone has picked up on this, but we follow a formula where we switch off who has the first mystery and then we do every other. We don't pick which mysteries we get. For some reason, the fates just give me lost loves, which I'm not mad about. Although this one is, like Liz said, a little grim. So we are looking for the maybe foster parents of...
Miriam Parton. So Miriam Parton, that's actually her maiden name. They are withholding her married name to help her protect her identity. She is searching for whom she thinks were her foster parents, a man and woman named Pat and Mike McGuire. She believes they took care of her after her father was taken to a psychiatric hospital when she was a child in 1945. Miriam is, at the time of this episode, 50 years old. She lived in New York and had one grown daughter. Her husband passed away in 1984, and she spent most of her time volunteering and working with other widows.
In July of 1982, she was seeing a psychologist when during one session, she began to have random memories return to her sort of like horrible flashbacks. Robert Stack introduces this segment with like, I wrote down the quote. It's a little bit ridiculous. He's in like a, it looks like a high school science classroom. There's like a skull model with like an open brain in front of him.
Beyond belief, fact or fiction. He walks in and this is what he says. The human mind is a vast, uncharted universe where thought and moments and memories lurk randomly. Which I don't think that's true whatsoever. Thoughts and moments and memories lurk randomly in the vast, uncharted universe that is the human mind, according to Robert Stack.
That's very poetic, but I don't think that's true. I'm sure if I was a scientist, I could say some things about synapses. It's all random. Memories are lurking in the vast uncharted territory that is your brain. Wow. What hero Robert Stack was to say such bullshit with such conviction. So during the session, she had her first horrifying flashback. And then thereafter, she would continue to have frightening images just randomly. I mean, in this case, it was random, just pop into her head, including a man being wrapped around the face with a cloth like a mummy, where he's like struggling and wrapping his face like an alive mummy. The reenactment is kind of horrifying. It's also ridiculous, though. I almost thought this was going to be a Halloween episode when I saw like the intro.
I did too. I did too because it's like we finally found a mystery with a mummy except it's this like repressed memory of someone being wrapped in bandages but that also has like nothing to do with anything. No I think that's just like a manifestation of her trauma perhaps. It's horrifying regardless. So once her disconnected memories began to come through they refused to go away. Often she would wake up in the middle of the night and lay on the floor in her bathroom crying because they were just like relentlessly coming. In these memories she would see her father attacking her as a young child and later she would see him being subdued by the police in one strange. Unfortunately.
I'm sure this is very traumatic, but the specificity of the details makes it quite odd that she has this memory where she is hungry and asks for a coconut, you know, as you do as a small child. Daddy, can I have a coconut? And he's like, sure, I'll open this coconut for you. And her mom's like, I don't know. Maybe that coconut's not ripe. Maybe you shouldn't use that knife. She's like.
she's like really hating on the idea of having a coconut and the dad's like she said she wanted a coconut your mom thinks she's a coconut expert and she's like smashing this coconut with a knife which yeah coconuts are like hard to open if you don't do that right i wouldn't know how to open a coconut so he's like yeah smashing it with a knife but then can't open it so then he just like throws it across the room and starts like flipping over furniture and screaming it's very odd and i yes as a child would that be very scary absolutely but to see a grown man freak out over a coconut is sort of amusing The acting is also really bad. He's freaking out over a coconut. He's not a good actor. It's very strange. Your mom thinks she's some kind of coconut expert, but she's not going to control me. I control the coconuts.
It's so ridiculous and absurd that it's silly. I really did laugh out loud, although it's very traumatic if you could imagine how much it traumatizes this poor child. She's freaking out about this coconut. As an adult, she's having this flashback about it. It alarmed her psychologist, who believes that it was an indication that she had been abused and was repressing these memories until being in therapy and talking about it suddenly made them come to the surface, which makes total sense.
also sounds really unpleasant. Marion was especially surprised at her flashbacks because she had only remembered good things about her father, which, I mean, I guess makes sense if you're repressing all the bad memories, then, you know, what sticks with you is good memories, and you have this idea of your father as a good person, and that's having a happy childhood, but then suddenly all these other memories are coming, so that was... Very upsetting for Miriam. She was an only child. Her father, Harry, died in 1984. Although he had often exhibited erratic behavior, her conscious memories of him had always been happy ones. Now she believed that something bad had happened to her between the ages of three and five. During this time, she lived with her parents in Miami Beach. So during this coconut...
incident she remembers her father picking her up and violently shaking her she was able to kick him and he dropped her so she ran and hid behind a couch and honestly so the whole reenactment is ridiculous but the scariest part i think is that she's hiding behind this couch and he's walking around the house with a knife like calling for her she said he was calling for her as if she was a dog or a cat and he's sort of menacingly holding this knife and then when he can't find her he starts violently stabbing a chair which implies that he was looking to find her and stab her, which is very scary. And then in her memory, she remembers police rushing in and potentially also medical professionals. She remembers in this memory, like people in white coats coming in and them and the police tried to subdue him. So she thinks that perhaps her mother called them. So she now believes that her father suffered from severe mental illness. She also believes that she was taken away as her mother was trying to cope and deal with the situation. During one of her flashbacks, she realized that she was with a different person who she remembered, like she had this feeling that this was her mother, but it was actually a different person and that she was in the home of a different couple.
She realized that this was a safe place that she was remembering and that the couple were sweet and kind to her. As her memories seemed to return, she realized that the new couple were probably foster parents and that she had been likely placed with them. She remembered that her foster father was a young man who had white hair. She also remembered that he was a fireman. With her foster mother, she remembered that she sang her to sleep.
with Irish lullabies, and she believes that she called them Mommy Pat and Daddy Mike. The happy memories soon ended, however. She recalled a serious discussion with Pat and Mike with them saying that she may be taken away. She next remembered sitting in a courtroom with a social worker. Her parents, along with the foster parents, were also there, and the court decided that she would go back with her real parents. The last thing she remembered was crying in the courtroom, wishing that she could go back with Pat and Mike. Miriam lived with... I know, and the reenactment of this particularly is really, really sad. So Miriam lived with her parents until she married at the age of 21.
At the age of 47, she began to search for Mike and Pat. Miriam's mother admits that her father did have emotional issues. However, she denies that Miriam was ever placed in foster care. Some have suggested that Miriam suffers from what's called false memory syndrome. Her psychologist describes it basically like it's not necessarily that she's making it up if she had the syndrome, but there's a chance, of course, that what she's remembering didn't actually happen. But he didn't really believe that. He thinks that they're specific and in all likelihood she was repressing these memories and that they are true. There are no court or foster records for Miriam, however.
I don't know. It doesn't necessarily mean anything to me because we know that governments don't always keep great records, especially not before they were digital. There's been some real sloppy record keeping, which has led to plenty of mysteries. Right, exactly. And the Dade County Clerk's Office actually told Unsell Mysteries that it's not unusual for the time period following World War II to not have those records anymore. Miriam still hopes to find her foster parents to thank them for the love and care they gave her. She believes that she lived with Pat and Mike.
between 1945 and 1946, when she was between the ages of three and four. There is a little update, but this is technically unresolved. A viewer did call in some mysteries to say that Pat and Mike McGuire actually did exist. A couple by that name existed. They sent a photograph of Pat McGuire around that same time. It's not a very clear photograph, however. And the viewer did say that they cared for a young child in 1945. However, Miriam was unable to locate them. That lead didn't actually go anywhere other than there's a potential photograph. I mean, I think I feel like I'm going to say this word wrong.
What am I trying to say? Corroborates? Yes, thank you. It corroborates her memory. So I think that does possibly prove that that really happened. I'm a little bit frustrated with the mom. I feel like she's not telling her the whole story. And part of what makes me think that is that she had only had happy memories of her father until they started coming back. And then the mom was like, yeah, okay. So he did have some mental health issues. So I don't know that she's being very forthcoming. Agreed. I think maybe it's something she didn't want to talk about because it was such a dark chapter or because...
Her daughter honestly wanted to stay with those other people. Yeah, I think that's true. I don't know that the mom denying it means much because it does seem like she had these traumatic experiences. And yeah, it's too bad that she never got. It would have been helpful if her mom was more willing to talk to her about the situation with her father.
Right, because all the information she has that she gives on some mysteries came entirely from the flashbacks that she experienced. She didn't actually get any information from her mom. Her mom was just like, well, yeah, he had some, she called it emotional problems. Which seems to support the coconut mystery or memory, right? Like the mom's not denying that that happened. So if that memory is true, it seems more likely to me that the foster parent memory is true and that the mom just doesn't want to talk about it, which is sad. Yeah, it really is. Okay, now we're going to move on to something you might not have expected. I sure didn't. A ghost blimp.
you heard that right it's a ghost blimp everyone and this unexplained segment taking place in 1942 robert sack wants to remind you that world war ii was still in progress um he said the u.s had every reason to fear a japanese invasion of its western shores and i was kind of like yeah okay but at the time people were very worried about submarines uh so apparently the solution to that was blimps so i just wrote down blimps to the rescue oh my god okay my notes moving backwards my notes for the last mystery this is all i wrote down haunting by mummy memories attacked over a coconut and then in all caps fashion equals snood We didn't talk about the fashion. We did some retro fashions, including a snood, which if you don't know what that is, it's a sort of like knit hairnet thing women wore in the 40s. You like put it around a low bun. So I just wanted to make sure we included that when we did our fashion wrap up at the end of the episode. You're really taking notes on the important. Exactly. When you have a repressed memory that might be of a mummy, very important. When someone's wearing a snood, also important. When there's a ghost blimp.
Important, okay. So we're talking about August 16th, 1942, because on that day, a blimp crashed on the California coast, but strangely, no one was on board. The two-man crew had vanished and were never found. This started the ghost blimp legends, which, okay, I don't really think is much of a legend, but whatever. Robert Stack is also- How dare you? Oh my God. How do you besmirch the ghost blimp legends? This is an incredibly legendary ghost blimp. I'm sorry, I take it back. Name a more legendary ghost blimp, I dare you. You got me there, I can't. I just, it's not very ghostly.
But it is mysterious. It's highly mysterious. I'll give it that. So Robert Stack is actually standing by what I wrote down as the only blimp of note, the Goodyear blimp, while he's talking about this. So the day... All the other blimps are crying right now. How dare you? I've been overlooked again. Okay, so on that day, the blimp was designated Flight 101, was prepared to take off. It was manned by 27-year-old Lieutenant Ernest DeWitt Cody and 34-year-old...
I'm not even sure. I already forgot how you said this. Ensign? Charles Ellis Adams? Is Ensign a name? Okay. Both were considered experienced and reliable. There would have been a third man on board, but he was ordered off at the last minute, possibly due to the level of moisture in the air. It seems like records about this are not entirely clear. There was a guy that was going to be part of the crew, but they told him to get off. And the speculation is that the air conditions weren't good. So they didn't want three men on the blimp. They only wanted two.
Who knows? So the blimp was supposed to fly from what is apparently actually called Treasure Island to the Farland Islands, 24 miles, 25 miles off the California coast and then head north. But after doing the first leg of the flight, they lost communication. After three hours of radio silence, which seems like kind of a lot, we got a reenactment of that where they're like, you know, come in, come in, and they just don't hear anything. They heard from the San Francisco Coast Guard that a blimp had crashed on a golf course.
which meant the blimp was eight miles off course. So after crashing down on the coast, it rose again and began drifting inland. It quickly lost altitude over Daly City. And we hear from an eyewitness, this woman that was like super, this is clearly the most exciting thing that's ever happened in her life, that she once saw this blimp crash. Sorry, I should be so mean. Fortunately, nobody was injured when it came down in the middle of the street. So the Navy arrived and were shocked to find no one on board.
so they were expecting that there would be like you know the two injured crew members or i don't know somehow they had died and that's how the blimp crashed but instead there was nobody so the switches were still on straight this is the part i find the strangest the radio still worked so there's no reason why they couldn't have um responded to those check-ins or signaled distress right there was also still six hours of fuel remaining so that's not why um the safety bar that was across the door had been removed so you know it didn't seem like they would have know if that means they couldn't have just fallen out but they would have had to actively move that bar right um and three life jackets were missing still on board was a machine gun flares an inflatable raft and one life jacket there was also a locked briefcase full of top secret codes which in the reenactment literally was just like a black you know dossier holding thing that says like secret codes on it or something like literally said like top secret stencil down and i was like i don't think that's the best way to keep things secret in my opinion But I think this is the secret code. I wonder if this could be the secret codes, everyone, which actually might be kind of a good look for just like, I don't know if you have a briefcase or maybe a large purse and you want to spray paint secret codes on it. That could be great. That could be a good look. OK, so the ships had spotted a blimp in flights when they talked to those witnesses. Apparently, everything had looked normal. Some ships were close enough that they could actually see that two men were on board and, you know, nothing seemed out of the ordinary.
So this is where you get to speculate. Had there been an accident? Had there been a lover's quarrel? All these different rumors fly around that maybe these two men were fighting over a woman. They like throw. Yeah, maybe there's a love triangle. Maybe they get thrown off the blimp. The Navy went with what they call the most likely scenario, which is that one of them went out to fix something on the blimp, needed help. The other one went out and then they both fell.
I like the lovers quarrel. Were they quarreling with each other because they were lovers? That's my theory. That wasn't put forth through the show, but I think that's heterosexism. I think we should consider the fact that they were in love. Maybe they quarreled. Maybe they had a love pack suicide. I don't see that speculated on, but I don't see why not.
I'm sure it's as likely as anything else. Yeah. The thing is, we honestly have no idea what happened to these two men. So you can say anything. You can say they joined Mothman in another realm. Aliens. Yeah. Why not? They saw the Loch Ness Monster and they hopped on its back and they rode away. The twist, I know you're surprised there's a twist to the ghost blimp, is that the blimp went on to be used by Goodyear in the 60s and 70s and was seen by millions during sporting events. So you may have very well seen the ghost blimp.
Yeah, that's not a good idea. Why? There's some bad vibes on the doomed blimp. You're just going to fly that above a sports game? To promote your tires? So random, right? I've never really thought about how weird it is that there's a gigantic blimp flying around that's like, bye, tires. I've never thought about it. Random. It has nothing to do with anything. Possibly this cursed lover's quarrel blimp.
has been yeah flying overhead and you're like oh look the goodyear blimp little did you know it's actually the ghost blimp coming for you trying to actually disappear you as well i feel bad for these families that never knew what happened it is i mean it's a weird mystery it's a weird probably just yeah probably yeah they're it's weird that they didn't radio for help but maybe they thought it was like a minor thing and they ended up both falling or i don't know it's weird it is weird All right. You have a wanted. And all I wrote down is two firefighters in this episode. And then this is terrible. That's all I wrote. This is a wanted. And we are looking for the dirt bag of the century, Reggie De Palma. He was a Danbury, Connecticut firefighter, fighter, fighter and once respected pillar of the community. On this show, you're always. No, no. Any pillar of the community. Just shoot him on site.
It's never leading to something good. He saved five puppies from a storm drain. No, never. Because that's not a mystery. Nope. Nope. This wouldn't be a wanted if he was just continued to be a pillar of the community. And he continued to be a pillar of the community by finding treasure, if only. Yep. We're not going there, folks. Okay. In 1978, he organized and ran a local explorer's post for the youth in his community. His girlfriend, Connie, was a co-leader of the organization. It became a popular...
after school activity for many teenagers in the area. One of these teens, who they call Diane in the show, but it's not her real name, felt that they were very nice and trustworthy people. By 1981, this explorer's post grew to include 15 girls and 10 boys. They would often meet at the fire station and would receive training and first aid and, I don't know, it doesn't seem like an explorer type thing. It seemed like a scout sort of situation. He was a firefighter, so he would show them how to do CPR on a fake dummy. Often,
Training was interrupted by emergency calls for fires or whatever. The teens idolized De Palma and he became a role model for them. Another teen who was called Terry in the show was very close with De Palma and his girlfriend. In October, the group organized a haunted house to help raise money for an upcoming camping trip. While there, De Palma asked Terry, who was then 13 years old, about having a boyfriend and having sex. Totally normal question for an adult to ask a 13 year old. Oh wait, no, it's terrible. We probably should have given like a trigger warning at the beginning of this one, especially if you're going to watch this episode. The reenactment is really...
difficult to watch they reenact this conversation which is like in a haunted house it's just so weird unsettling it gives us this total like us vibes like yeah yeah you might think oh a haunted house that's not really scary yeah but imagine you're 13 and a grown man you idolize is asking you about your sex life suddenly that haunted house is very fucking scary yeah terrifying so he asked her if she ever had a boyfriend if she ever went quote all the way and then he would And so she's very uncomfortable. She's not wanting to answer these questions. She's looking away. She says, no, no. I'm 13. He said that he would want to teach her about it because he was her, quote, friend. I hate talking about this. At the time, she felt uncomfortable. But also, like, she didn't realize that she wasn't the only person he was, the only kid he was saying this to. So she felt, you know, alone. She didn't know what to make of it because she's 13. You don't fully understand what is inappropriate and what is not, you know, you don't, you don't.
fully understand what those lines are also you think you're a lot more grown than you are and you try to like be more mature than you are so as uncomfortable as this is making her i'm sure she didn't want to be like you're gross right because this is someone she looks up to and respects so she's like you know trying to be cool and fit in or whatever but she also is like maybe this is how adults are and i'm supposed to know that Because I'm growing up. Exactly. Or how do you tell this person, I'm uncomfortable. I don't want to talk about this. You're 13. That would be very difficult to do. So at this point, she's in the haunted house. She's weirded out. She's creeped out. And then Connie comes up to her and asks her to come back to their apartment. See, this is the part that has the diabolical mind condition, if you ask me. Because having the girlfriend reassure her makes the situation seem so much more safe. That this woman that he is with, and they're this pillar of the community, and everybody thinks of them as this couple.
Right. That that is going to seem so much less threatening and not really something you would be warned about opposed to just. you know, a random dude. Oh yeah. Yeah. Your parents probably told you, you know, don't, don't be alone with them. Like, you know what I mean? But now this girlfriend who's part of their group, the scout group, she's involved in it. So they know her very well. This is extremely predatory. I'm sure her parents know and respect, right? Exactly. Yeah. Sorry. Go on. This is where it gets difficult to talk about. So she had Terry take a shower to get the makeup off of her face from the haunted house. After that, she was invited into their bedroom where DePaula forced her to have sex with him while Connie watched.
Honestly, death is too good for both of them. I want them both to suffer forever. This is so bad. Tragically, Terry was not his first victim and would also not be his last. Diane, not her real name, who was also 13 at the time, was also raped by De Palma. Over the next year, he continued to sexually abuse girls in the Explorer's Post group. Finally, the girls...
got together as a group and one of them decided to tell her mother. We have this reenactment where basically they all came together and they were telling each other what he was doing to them and realizing as a group that we're not alone. He's doing this to all of us and it's terrible and we need to say something. And the girls decide that one of them was going to tell her mother and the others were going to support her in this. So she went to her mother and her mother immediately called the police. Investigators questioned the girls and did everything they could to help them. Several of them claimed that he had forced them to drink alcohol.
before he attacked them. When this came out, De Palma was arrested by the police and charged with five counts of child molestation. His girlfriend, Connie, was questioned. She later pled guilty to risking injury to a minor and was given five years in prison. Not enough. No. She should have been thrown in a pit where spiders ate her eyeballs. Yeah, it's really terrible. One year after his arrest, De Palma went on trial. On the fifth day of the trial, he went to New Haven, Connecticut to visit his sick mother and disappeared. His car was found in the hospital parking lot. The trial went on without him and on October 25th, 1983, he was convicted on all charges.
He was sentenced in absentia to 20 years in prison. However, he remained at large at the time of the broadcast and had at that point never served a day of his sentence. His victims are still hoping that he'll be caught before he can abuse another child. Fortunately, he was captured in the summer of 2000. Oh, much later, though. Yeah, well, yeah, so he was out. The segment originally ran on May 19th, 1993, and then it went on to be featured on America's Most Wanted, and it seems like America's Most Wanted is what finally got him captured. Oh, boo. Yeah, unfortunately, we have to give one to America's Most Wanted. One of their viewers' tips led investigators to De Palma, who was arrested in Florida after 17 years on the run. He was living with a wife and three children.
Using the alias Lawrence Mateo, he was taken back to Connecticut and sentenced to 21 years in prison and was released in 2014. Okay, great. As of 2015, he was a registered sex offender in the state of Connecticut. I don't have an update beyond that. Hopefully he fell in a hole and never came out. Yeah, I mean, if there's a God. Yeah. It's a very distressing segment. I will say that I feel like it's handled pretty well. I thought the reenactment of the girls realizing that they all had this in common, I thought the acting for that was very good, and I thought that was very well done.
Yeah, I thought they handled it well. The investigators, of course, were taking it extremely seriously. And it just sucks that he got to live a life for 17 years. He got married, had children. Yeah, you've got to worry about those children. I don't even want to think about that. That's horrible. So, yeah. That was dark. I hope the victims got the therapy and support they need because, yeah, it's just very grim. It's a very dark story. Yeah, Reggie De Palma has a mustache, but he's obviously ineligible for MVM. Oh, God, yeah. I hope any mustache he ever has catches on fire and burns his whole face.
Yeah, that would be less than he deserves. Yeah, exactly. Okay, so now it doesn't pick up. We get a final appeal. Embrace yourself. Yeah, god damn. Unsolved Mysteries wants to remind you of other final appeal segments that they've done. It's just a thing to kill time, I swear. But they want you to know that they've, like, helped these other people get released. And, you know, good for that. So then Robert Stack claims that criminals always say that they are innocent. I don't actually think that that's true. No, I don't think it's true. But I think that is, like, sort of common misconception that, like, literally everyone says that they're innocent. I don't know. Okay, anyway. And Robert Stack is standing in a courtroom that has, like, really intense blue haze. And it's like, why would a courtroom be foggy? But anyway, we're going back.
to january 3rd 1972 when two boys in on the taylor bayou near webster texas found quote evidence of a tragedy and the reenactment for this is sadly hilarious because it is two kids canoeing going oh what's that floating over there and it's a freaking human skull so then they pull the skull into the boat and start freaking out and then like paddling away and unfortunately that's pretty hilarious but um So six weeks later, the rest of that victim's bones were found, along with those of another young woman. Dental records helped ID the remains. It was 14-year-old Rhonda Renee Johnson and 15-year-old Shannon Shaw. The cause of death was unknown because they were pretty decomposed by the time they were found. So the police went on to arrest 23-year-old Michael Self, a gas station attendant. And the reason this is a final appeal is because he has been in prison for 20 years at the time of this segment for crimes he says he didn't commit. At this point, Robert Stack uses the phrase rough justice. And I just knew immediately that that was going to be the title of this episode.
By rough justice, what he was talking about was like police torturing a confession out of someone. So he defines rough justice as physical and psychological intimidation. It's like, that's that's torture. But OK. Yeah, justice isn't the right word, but rough justice is just... It's such a, like, porno title name, and him saying it with, like, total conviction is very funny to me. But it turns out the two police officers who produced this confession are also criminals. Surprise, surprise. Okay. Which I literally wrote down, like, huh. Yeah, that's supposed to be, like, a big shock, but no one in this day and age is surprised to find out that these two abusive police officers were also criminals. I mean, they're criminals just from that, but... Both victims disappeared on August 4th, 1971. They were last seen heading to a surf and ski shop in Galveston, Texas, which is about...
20 miles south of Rhonda's home. And there was a large search at the time because one of the victims was a councilman's daughter, I believe, but there were no real leads. So in late May of 1972, the Webster City Council hired a new police chief. This was Don Morris, and he came with his assistant chief, Tommy Deal. Both were from the traffic division of the Department of Public Safety, which, I don't know, to me does not sound like you're qualified to be sheriff or whatever. Within three weeks, he got a tip that he should check out the known sex offenders in the area, which I don't even understand how that's a tip. That seems like kind of...
Just routine protocol, but whatever. So Michael Self was one of those known sex offenders. He had two charges for, quote, peeping Tom incidents. So he was a peeper. That part, I don't think there's any denial that he's guilty of. So by June 9th, 1972, at 5 a.m., Assistant Chief Tommy Deal and another officer stopped by the gas station where Michael worked. Tommy, for some reason, tells him that he has ESP and can read his mind. Yeah, this. So.
I'm not sure exactly, but it seems like Michael Self is kind of a vulnerable adult. I think he's very easily manipulated by authority figures. And I'm guessing Tommy could sense that right away. And so it was telling him, like, I can read your mind and I know you killed those girls. But Michael was just sort of like, OK, you know what to say to that. It's just it's also just like a fucking weird declaration. So like pulling to a station five in the morning and go, hey, you know what ESP is? I can read your mind.
Yeah. Are you a real police officer? Are you high right now? Because I got to say it's five in the morning. Like you need to get your life together. So because of that interaction, Michael later came into the police station voluntarily. I guess they had asked him to come by. I'm not really sure. He was shown photos of both victims and he said he recognized them but did not know them. I don't think that's surprising at all considering there was supposedly like a really big search for them. Like he's probably seen their photos or maybe they came to the gas station. It doesn't seem like it's a super populous area, right? Like he's probably seen them around, but.
i don't know he doesn't know two 14 year old girls um he was at this point coughed and told that he was going to be arrested um and that they knew that he had killed them at this point he's put into a room where the officers demanded a confession at one point he's forced against a wall and hit with a nightstick i think this is i'm sorry i don't my notes aren't clear on this i think this is don morris who was doing this part oh okay the chief of police but it might be tommy deal i honestly don't remember i apologize but yeah so he's beaten with a nightstick and at that point he the officer takes out his gun removes five bullets and lines them up on the table in front of Michael and threatens to blow his brains out if he doesn't sign a confession. He's also told what to write for his confession because guess what? He doesn't know. So another officer was in the room at the very beginning, leaves, and comes back at the point where he's writing the confession, which he saw had to be written several times because it, quote, wasn't right.
Okay. Yeah. However, the confession submitted to evidence still doesn't match the known details of the crime. The dump site that's listed is 20 miles from where the two bodies were found. He also referred to choking one of the victims in such a manner that probably would have broken bones, which isn't seen in the remains. He also had never been to the victim's houses, as stated. We hear from an attorney now with quite a mustache. It's extremely long. It's very skinny. I hate it. I full up hate it. I called it the cursed arch.
That is a cursed mustache. Yeah, I'm not a fan. So three days after his arrest, Michael went against his attorney's advice and took a lie detector test. I'm sure he thought that this would prove his innocence. And actually, even when he claimed the confession was true because he was still scared of being killed by police officers, the polygraph actually said that that was a lie.
And at this point, because of that, they asked him to sign a second confession because he sort of like just disproved his first one. So and because he's still afraid for his life, he did. However, that confession is also incorrect, saying that the bodies were nude when they were actually found clothed, etc. So two weeks later, this is very strange. The two police officers like check him out of jail, say they're getting him a hamburger, but actually take him for a ride to the places mentioned in the confession and photograph him standing there. This is presented at the trial as a third confession.
I've never heard of this in my life. I don't understand how that is a confession to anything. His new attorney says that it wasn't even legal for them to take him out of prison for this reason. Yeah. Take him to jail. To just like photograph him. Like we took him to a place, told him to stand there, photographed him. Obviously he did it. Like what? You could do that with anyone. You could have done that with me if I was alive. Like that doesn't make any sense. Okay. We hear from another officer that believes Michael's story because he had seen, and again, I'm not sure which officer this is. I think this is Morris. Because he had seen Morris force a suspect to play Russian roulette.
Cool. At this point, I'm definitely going, wait, and that you did what when that happened? Apparently nothing. He's like, oh, I know. I think the story is true because he talked about removing the bullets from the gun and lining them up. And I've seen him do that. And it's like, huh, cool. And that's just allowed to continue. Yeah. So his story does make sense to me. Like, oh, boy. So apparently that had happened one year earlier. A couple of years later, the town was shocked. Shocked, I say, when Morris and Deal were arrested for a bank robbery, which is kind of hilarious that the town's sheriff and like assistant sheriff were actually bank robbers.
And they had been robbing banks for a while, including five months before Michael was arrested. So that's supposed to make you extremely suspect of this confession as if you weren't already. Like, bank robbers are not, I don't believe anything about this confession. It's like, well, they beat him and they threatened to murder him. I think that's enough. And they made him rewrite the confession multiple times. And then, yeah, it took him on this like weird photo essay journey. They're suspect as hell, but also bank robbers. So for the bank robbery, Morris was sentenced to 55 years and Tommy Deal was sentenced to 30 years. Both were eventually paroled, but Tommy went on to rob another bank and was returned to prison. He just loved robbing banks. Couldn't get enough of it. So on April 2nd, 1980, a man walked into the police station in Taylor Lake, Texas and confessed to both of the murders.
He said he had a really guilty conscience and he wanted to get us off his chest or whatever. So these are the it's not clear. These are the murders that Michael Self is in prison for. His account was vague and disjointed. But the way that was interpreted is that he wanted to sort of like alleviate his guilt by confessing to the murders, but also like not be prosecuted. So when he was asked specific questions about like the dump site or how he met the victims and stuff like that, he was very vague and claims he didn't remember. But he did mention tying them up with black cord, which was a detail that was not known to the public and was not mentioned in either of the confessions. So that did lead people to think that this guy's confession was accurate. So we hear from one prosecutor who believes.
that Michael Self is innocent and one who I guess believes he's guilty or just doesn't really care. He's sort of like, look, it was enough for the jury. We're done. But the new person was actually connected to the victims, unlike Michael, who had no connection to them. He lived in the same apartment building as one of them. There's actually no evidence beyond the confession connecting Michael Self to the crime. There's literally no physical evidence. There's no eyewitnesses. There's literally nothing. He had no connection to the victims. He had no connection to the dump site.
other than they got him to say that he did it that's literally it uh so the update is depressing as hell the supreme u.s supreme court refused to consider michael self's request for a new trial and he was repeatedly denied parole he died of cancer in prison at 53 oh It seems pretty clear that he didn't do it. Here's the update or the results from Unresolved Wiki. Self was denied parole in 1994 and eventually exhausted his appeals. In 2000, he died in prison without ever receiving a new trial. He was 52. However, some of the investigators in the case now believe that his coercion was coerced. And he was wrongly convicted. Convicted murderer Edward Bell.
has since confessed to Rhonda and Shannon's murder, along with the murders of several other young women. However, he has never been charged in those cases, and he died in prison in 2019. It's very distressing. I mean, no, what I mean is it's a perfect system. There's no, we don't need to just burn it down and start over.
Yeah. Yeah. If you had, if you are of the opinion that the system works great, I would recommend watching this segment and maybe mulling on that and realizing that stuff like that still happens. Yeah. Surprising or at least unsettling frequency, if not surprising. Police are allowed to lie to you. So it's not even clear to me like if a police, like today, some police officer walked into the room with a suspect and told him he had ESP and could read his mind. I'm not even, I think that's completely legal. Oh yeah, totally. And it would be, you know, your fault for falling for that or something, even though I don't feel like.
michael self was adequately equipped to you know represent himself or defend himself um yeah i think it's very clear that they didn't care who really committed this crime they just wanted to solve it to look good because they you know were new appointees um and that just meant that the actual murderer was you know still like they didn't care no and even them going to prison for actual bank robbery didn't didn't help him get a new trial like what you had there was no other evidence there was nothing committing him to that crime Except that when someone literally threatened to kill him, he was so scared that he agreed to sign something that he didn't even really write. So he had to keep redoing it, like schoolwork. So frustrating. That's where we end season five, everyone. An upbeat.
I mean, I'm glad Robert Stack didn't like personally tamper with the evidence. But other than that, there's not much good to say about it. It is dark. It is going to haunt you. I think it's a good reminder not to talk to the police, though. So definitely go on Etsy, get yourself a comeback with a warrant, little embroidery for something. You can get your door mats. Yeah, just don't talk to the police. This could be you. You don't know. You could be the next Michael Self.
Yeah, really, for real. It's good advice. Okay, let's rate it. Mysteriousness. Actually, pretty mysterious because of the blimp. The blimp is mysterious on this whole other level.
Yeah, and the last love is unresolved, so that's also mysterious. When are we going to talk about a blimp again? Probably never, so thumbs up. Possibly never, especially a ghost blimp. Never. Fashion. Okay, we did get a snooze, but did we get anything else of note? I don't think so. I'm trying to remember. I mean, even the mustaches weren't that great. They were, in fact, cursed. So I'm going to say sideways, and it's only getting a sideways literally because of a snood. I think you're right. It gets a few points for that, but not many. Reenactments.
All over the map. You've got some like unintentionally funny reenactments. Coconut reenactment. And that those boys in a canoe thinking it's a ball floating down the river and it turns out to be a skull. It's such a like goosebumps moment where it's like, what's this? I bet it's a treasure. I bet it's a ball. Oh my God, it's a skull. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how to rate this. Some of them are very good and heartwarming and some of them will make you roll your eyes. Is it just a wash? It's just like your thumb wavering. It's like your thumb vibrating from up, down as fast as it can. Yeah.
yeah yeah i think that's i don't know what to call that but that's what this episode gets for reenactments and then robert stack i have to say he's like feeling himself yeah this episode or something he's very poetic it doesn't make a lot of sense what he's saying but it makes no sense with a lot of gravitas the conviction he has in his nonsense couldn't be more he's just like i don't he's just like in it he's like yeah i don't know if it's like the season's done he's about to go on vacation or what but he's like he's really all about himself. He's all about unsolved mystery. He's all about the mystery. He's all about there's for some reason being a fog machine in a courtroom. Like, yes, yes. He gets a thumbs way up from me. Thumbs up for Robert Stack. That's, you know, that's a good, that's a good way to close out the season. It's a good Robert Stack episode. Robert Stack that will a little bit make you have even less faith in humanity, but at least there was Robert Stack, you know? Yeah, exactly. And then on our Robert Stack scale. Oof. I haven't really thought about this. Yeah. I actually think it's good. It's just sad.
You're right. We can't mark it down necessarily for being sad. I mean, those are unsolved mysteries. But some of those reenactments are... Are kind of cringe. I'm going to say three and a half. Okay. Yeah, I feel good. That resonates with me, a three and a half. I think the mysteries are solid. I think the pacing is good. But yeah, the coconut moment. You got to take that into consideration. I mean, I hope there was a lover's quarrel on a blimp. That's so romantic.
I hope there was too. Let's just assume that there was. Let's just assume. Well, that's the end. That's the end of season five. We're finally done with season five. It feels like it's been a million years. I mean, it kind of has. 24 episodes. Plus, we've taken more breaks this season than any other season. So it has taken us quite a while to get through this one. You know what? We got to stretch out this real good content.
It's true. People can't. If we really could release every week, we wouldn't be able to handle it. It'd overwhelm their senses. Do you have any final thoughts on season five or should we save that for our listener stories? I want you to collect my thoughts. So maybe we're going to have a finale episode out next week and then we'll probably take yet another break. Yeah. We have earned that break. Are you kidding me? We definitely need it. I don't know if we earned it, but we for sure need it. Well, we're taking it either way. It doesn't matter. This is our show. And this might be a good time to mention that we don't have a lot of listener stories. So send them in if you've got them. But also we may be taking questions and we may do like a Q&A type thing. I think we should.
So keep an eye on our social media. We'll put the call out for that. Yeah, yeah. If you've got any burning questions, you're dying. We haven't done a Q&A in a while, so maybe you've got some. I'm sure no one really cares about anything we say or do, but if you do happen to have any questions, let us know.
Okay, so that's where we are. It is now time for our recommendations. I have a few recommendations updates. Let's see if I can remember them. One is, since this is really secretly a Baraska fan podcast, is that New York Comic Con obviously is online this year. They're not going to fill a convention hall with a bunch of people in cosplay giving each other coronavirus. So good on them for that. So there's going to be an online panel about Baraska. I forget what day, but you can just watch that for free. So take a look at their...
God, I might be wrong, but I want to say it's on the 11th. So yeah, you could just watch that for free from the comfort and safety of your own home if you're interested in Nebraska. That's the thing. I feel like if you're going to do a season two announcement, I feel like it's going to be then. So I'm definitely going to be watching. Okay, I'm excited. And it's like, I gotta know.
I got enough. I would love for there to be another season of that podcast. It was really good. Please, please, please, please, please. Yeah, we got pumpkins and animal crossing. I'm literally right now wearing some skeleton pajamas and my M and sprout jack-o'-lantern slippers, which are going to be coming out in purple. I want them. Really fighting the urge to buy a second pair in purple. I do not need a second pair, but do I want them in purple? Yes. So we'll see. Oh, I remember. Okay. I was stalling because I was having trouble remembering what the other thing I wanted to update was, which I think at some point I mentioned I was excited to watch.
young Wallander being a fan of the show Wallander and it was so boring that I forgot that I had watched it so that's the update on that wow what a disappointment young Wallander was didn't have any of the sort of bleak existential quiet dread that the Kenneth Branagh series had and also it was just one mystery the whole the whole show that's not how Wallander works I I wasn't interested at all Matt was like I can't believe you're still watching this but I was like I don't know I feel committed but then I forgot that I had even finished it like that's how dull it was or the other day I was like did I finish watching that Oh, yeah, I did. Huh. Oh, well. So add that to the tragedies of 2020. Young Wallander. My actual recommendation for this week is the Paris Hilton documentary. I am Paris currently on Hulu. I'm not Hulu. Oh, my God. YouTube. You can watch it for free on YouTube. And I feel like I should say that I do have a bit of a soft spot for Paris Hilton. Might come as a surprise considering I want to eat the rich. But I've always felt bad for her as a victim of revenge porn. And just also she has a very iconic like taste style.
where that high and low culture meet and just I just she used to have a dog house that was an exact replica of her mansion but her dog lived in it like what that's amazing you cannot tell me that's not how a rich version suspended but she recently released and she is involved in this project so you know that you can debate like how authentic that means this documentary is but it's a documentary um about her life which is revealing and that uh in her you know fame of the aughts where she was like I cannot tell you how famous she was, like top of every news story was about Paris Hilton, that that was essentially a scam. Like she was playing a character that whole time. She's actually not the heir to the Hilton fortune. She's really not an heiress. She is a Hilton. She's like related to them, but she's not getting any of their money. So she tricked us off. But it's more about how her parents had sent her to these like reform boot camps as a teenager because she was like going out and partying. You know, they felt like they had like lost control over her. So they sent her to all these reform boot camps, which were like so abusive.
terrible sounding and traumatized her so much that when she left she just like ended up creating this persona where she had this like perfect life and everything was like it's fascinating I found it very fascinating and very revealing and just interesting I ended up watching a bunch of like psychologists react to videos afterwards. I don't know that I necessarily recommend that. I don't think that there was any, like, insight that you won't come to yourself from that. But, you know, trauma is traumatizing. I mean, like, I don't know that that level was necessary. But I did find it really interesting. And I think, yeah, she scammed us all. And there's a lot more going on there than maybe we thought. Nice. That's a good recommendation. I hadn't even heard of that.
it's like it's like an hour and a half i think it's you know just on youtube for free so was it produced for youtube is it one of their like youtube tv type they're trying to stream things well she has a channel so i think it's just on her channel which is usually just like her cooking lasagna you know what i mean it's usually just like youtube kind of stuff where i'll be like yeah i'll just be like watch paris hilton pick out a dress for this event and then there's just suddenly this hour and a half documentary about how yeah she was talking in a fake baby voice for decades and okay okay Yeah. Fascinating. Totally fascinating. I do really recommend it. It's worth watching. I don't know that I like love it, love it, but it's definitely worth watching. Nice. So I watched two things on Netflix recently that I really enjoyed. One, I'm sure I don't even really need to recommend it because all of you are probably true crime fans. And that is.
the American murder documentary about the Shanann Watts murder and the murder of her two children as well. And she was pregnant at the time she was murdered. Chris Watts, her husband, we all know, murdered her. The reason I'm recommending it, I watched it thinking it was going to be just another like true crime documentary. There's, you know, there are a dime a dozen at this point. You can't like shake a stick and not, you know, point out a true crime documentary these days. But this one was really unique. If you haven't watched it yet, it's really unique in that it's not, it has no narrator. There are no interviews. The entire documentary is told in footage. So either body cam, a lot of body cam footage was released from the police officers.
involved in searching for her it was all released um it was what's told in that it's told in like news footage interviews with chris that he did from like the police um what else is there there's like so she posted a ton on social media so there's it's told in like her social media posts um the text messages between them will be on the screen um so it's complete there's yeah there's no interviews with her friends and family other than like they'll show like them being interviewed by the news like or um the police talking to her through the body cam footage which i think makes it first of all very interesting it's sort of like I don't know, this was so recent. And it's kind of like, it's very different than how like true crime covers or like what we cover in Unsolved Mysteries before there was body cameras and social media and texting. And so to have all of that sort of in the mix in this documentary is very interesting. And then chilling. It is really chilling, especially the body cam footage because the police interact with Chris Watts like moments after he murdered them, essentially like the same day and to see his behavior and how he's interacting with his neighbors is like.
very very chilling um I'm I sort of feel like I've been burnt out on true crime a little bit lately and I'm still sort of at that place like I'm kind of burnt out on sad things and depressing things and this is very sad and depressing but I thought it was unique enough that I would recommend it because I've never seen um anything like this so you probably already watched it if you're it's been out for a little while now um but yeah I thought it was really really good and really well done and I mean of course it's horrible it's horrible this man murdered his two daughters just because and his wife just because he wanted I don't know, a new life, I guess. So that's horrible. But I think a lot of us have already followed the case and know the details, so that helps going into it. The other thing I watched that I thought was really good that maybe our listeners aren't as into is I watched that Challenger documentary on Netflix about the Challenger explosion. And I recommend that as well. I thought that was really well done. I feel like a lot of people probably know sort of the basic details of what happened when the Challenger exploded, which is that NASA knew about this malfunction in the rocket booster or whatever that eventually led to the explosion of the Challenger and the death of the crew members, including a teacher.
um nasa was sending a teacher into space sort of um reagan asked them to do that to sort of prove like how space safe space travel is because we'll even send a teacher into space um a citizen astronaut and of course it exploded and she along with six other astronauts died um which i mean i always knew that there was a like an attempted cover-up and that nasa was basically culpable for causing this like they knew that it could happen and they launched anyway but i didn't really know the extent to it and that part of it is really really interesting um the documentary shorts only six episodes um so it's very bingeable it was really good if you're looking for something to watch um sort of different, I think you would like that documentary. Nice. Yeah, actually, that sounds really interesting. Yeah. Travis and I watched it. He was kind of like, I don't know, I want to watch this. It doesn't sound that interesting. But we were both pretty sucked in right away. And of course, Netflix is doing, Netflix does a pretty good job in its originals. They're shot very well. You've got a lot of variety in the footage and the interviews are always really well done. So you won't be disappointed. Okay. Good to know. Well, I'm on my break from this podcast, just lying around, sipping margaritas. It's over until the next six episodes are released in a few weeks here. Oh, yeah. Reboot.
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