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EPISODE · Feb 26, 2025 · 17 MIN

Sanhedrin 71: Narrowing the Possibility of a Ben Sorer u-Moreh

from Talking Talmud · host Yardaena Osband & Anne Gordon

A page with 5 mishnayot: 1. To become a ben sorer u-moreh, the kid has to steal food from his father and eat it while on the property of others. 2. For the kid to be a ben sorer u-moreh, both parents need to be in agreement in bringing him to court. Plus, the parents have to be suited for each other (and not in violation of prohibited relationships -- but also the Gemara establishes them as more the "same" than that). 3. If either parents has a physical impairment or disability, the child is excluded from the potential status of ben sorer u-moreh, via very careful interpretation of the biblical verses. 4. What happens to a boy who is brought to court before the signs of physical maturity, flees the court, and then he grows the genital hair? Would he still be liable? Punished? Plus, the stringent rules for a Noahide who might evade the court (not for ben sorer u-moreh). 5. The ben sorer u-moreh is judged now out of concern for the harm he will (certainly) do down the road, which leads to an unusual (for a mishnah) discussion about the doings of wicked and righteous people, and their respective impacts on the world.

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