Scared AND Brave with Robin Lerner

In this episode of The AND Podcast, April and Ivy sit down with Robin Lerner, someone who has spent her life stepping into some of the world’s hardest places, choosing presence, compassion, and responsibility even when fear is present.Together, they explore what it looks like to hold grief and hope, anger and love, the weight of reality and the possibility of change. This is a conversation about courage that isn’t loud, humanity that doesn’t look away, and the quiet power of choosing to move closer when things feel broken or unjust.If you’ve ever felt called to do meaningful work even when it’s uncomfortable, this one is for you.