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The AND Podcast
by April Obersteller
The AND Podcast brings together leaders, makers, and thinkers who live beyond the limits of either/or. These are the real, unfiltered conversations about identity, leadership, creativity, and life where contradictions aren’t something to fix, but something to embrace. Here, we unpack what it means to lead with courage, live with depth, and thrive in the tension of AND.
Episodes
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Grateful AND Want More with Kelly Abanda
You can have everything you thought you wanted AND still feel called toward something different. In this episode of our Grateful AND Want More series, April sits down with Kelly Abanda, founder of The Better Brain Project, to explore the tension between appreciating the life we've built and...
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Grateful AND Want More with Emma Huschka
In this episode, April sits down with Emma Huschka, founder of Fiddle Leaf Marketing, to talk about redefining what “more” actually means. Because more doesn’t always mean a bigger title, more money, more clients or more stuff. Sometimes it means more alignment, more choice, more impact, more...
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Change and Trust with Eva Jungstein
What if the life you didn’t plan for is actually better than the one you did? In this episode of Change AND Trust, I sit down with Eva Jungstein to talk about reinvention, ambition, burnout, motherhood, and learning to trust yourself through seasons of change. Eva shares how unexpected pivots…
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Change and Trust with Sarah Aviram
What if the goal isn’t to manage change but to become more resilient inside of it? In this episode of Change AND Trust, April and Ivy sit down with author and speaker Sarah Aviram, whose journey took her from corporate HR to working across 12 countries in 12 months and eventually to building a...
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Change and Trust with Ysenia Aguirre Rhodes
What happens when the life you’ve worked hard to build is good… AND you know you’re ready for something different? After 15 years in financial services, Ysenia Rhodes left the comfort of being an expert to become a beginner again and co-found Huntress Wealth. We talk about knowing when it’s your...
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Change and Trust with Kristin Johnson
What happens when life keeps changing the plan and you learn to trust yourself enough to keep figuring it out? Kristin Johnson has navigated motherhood at 20, career pivots, loss, divorce, layoffs and plenty of unexpected turns. Now, she’s in a season of creating change on her own terms. We talk...
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Change and Trust with Lauren Winter
Lauren Winter has spent years leading teams through mergers, acquisitions, growth, and constant change all while navigating plenty of change at home, too. In this episode of Change AND Trust, we talk about staying steady in the swirl, communicating honestly when there are still unknowns, choosing...
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Personal and Professional with Jackie Bonfini
What if changing your pace doesn’t mean changing your ambition? In this episode of our Personal AND Professional series, Jackie Bonfini shares her journey from luxury fashion and corporate leadership to motherhood, burnout, healing, and ultimately building a coaching business of her own. We talk...
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Personal and Professional with Alaina Grable
What if work/life balance isn’t about choosing or perfectly balancing but about designing a life that makes room for both? In this episode of our Personal AND Professional series, we sit down with Alaina, therapist, founder of Our Kind Therapy, and soon-to-be mom, to talk about building a life...
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Personal AND Professional with Kristin McClement
What if the goal isn't work-life balance... but alignment? After two decades leading marketing and communications for major brands, Kristin McClement walked away from corporate life to build something that reflected who she truly was. In this conversation, she shares the mindset shifts, micro...
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Entrepreneur AND Employee - April's Story
After four incredible conversations exploring the tension between employee and entrepreneur, April closes the series by sharing her own story. From growing up with a single mom who taught her the value of hard work, to leading at YETI and woom, to building AND before the sun came up, this episode...
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Entrepreneur AND Employee with Celeste Warren
After nearly three decades as a corporate executive, Celeste Warren chose a different path. Not because she had to, but because she knew it was time. In this episode, we talk about purpose, planning your next chapter, the courage to leave something familiar, and why the skills you build as an...
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Entrepreneur AND Employee with Annie Fedrigo Graybill
What happens when the life you've built no longer aligns with the life you want? In this episode, April and Ivy sit down with Annie, founder of Havenwith, to explore the journey from employee to entrepreneur. Annie shares how motherhood, wellness, and a desire for more intentional living led her…
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Entrepreneur AND Employee with Justin Allen
In this kickoff to our Entrepreneur AND Employee series, Justin shares how building businesses made him a better leader, why every professional should create something of their own, and the leadership lessons he's carried from YETI to founding two companies. It's a conversation about courage,...
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Customer Experience AND Employee Experience with Lisa Pritchard and Luke Horadam
What happens when leaders stop treating customer experience and employee experience as separate conversations? In the final episode of our Customer Experience AND Employee Experience series, April is joined by two former teammates turned lifelong friends, Lisa and Luke, along with AND Podcast...
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Customer Experience AND Employee Experience with Trent Carrier
In this episode, executive leader Trent Carrier shares why trust is the foundation of both strong teams and strong businesses. We explore how care and accountability work together, why the best leaders coach to outcomes instead of micromanaging, and how investing in people creates a ripple effect...
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Customer Experience AND Employee Experience with Chris Johnston
This week, April sits down with Adoreboard founder and CEO Chris Johnston to explore the connection between trust, emotion, customer experience, and business performance. From building a startup through multiple pivots to helping global brands turn feedback into action, Chris shares why the...
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Customer Experience AND Employee Experience - April's Story
In this solo episode, April shares her journey from weddings to YETI, woom and now AND. She share the lesson that changed everything: customer experience and employee experience are inseparable. She breaks down the moments that shaped her career, the connection between thriving teams and loyal...
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Customer Experience AND Employee Experience with Lauren Kershner
In this episode, April sits down with hospitality entrepreneur Lauren Kershner to explore the powerful connection between customer experience and employee experience. From building multiple thriving businesses in Sonoma wine country to creating a culture centered on generosity, community, and…
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Roots AND Wings with Shelley Seale
In this episode, writer, author, and storyteller Shelley Seale shares her journey from a traditional upbringing to a life intentionally built around creativity, travel, purpose, and impact. Together, we explore reinvention, finding the courage to listen to your inner voice, and the power of...
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Creative AND Structured with Trish Olives
In this episode, Trish Olives shares her journey from aspiring comedy writer to creative leader, unpacking the reality behind great ideas: creativity thrives when paired with structure. We explore mentorship, creative problem-solving, building environments where people can do their best work, and...
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Roots AND Wings with Ateya Rana
For this episode of The AND Podcast, we are exploring Roots AND Wings with the incredible Ateya Rana. A woman whose story is a powerful reminder that we can honor where we come from while still building a life that stretches far beyond what was expected of us. Born in Pakistan and arriving in the...
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Creative AND Structured with Ginger Leigh
In this heartfelt episode of The AND Podcast, Ginger Leigh joins April and Ivy for a powerful conversation about creativity AND structure, roots AND wings, and what it means to fully embrace a life that doesn’t fit into one box. Musician, designer, world traveler, builder, writer, and…
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Creative AND Structured with Wendy Colonna
In this episode of Creative AND Structured, we sit down with musician and community builder Wendy Colonna to explore the intersection of creativity and discipline. From her early days building a DIY music community to creating a career that blends artistry and business, Wendy shares how structure...
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Fired AND Free // Everything You Need To Know About Layoffs
Getting fired. Letting people go. Staying behind after it happens. This episode holds all of it. Joined by Brie Kluytenaar, an employment lawyer of over 15 years, we walk through what to do, what to avoid, and what it really looks like to handle layoffs in a way that is both clear AND human.
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Fired AND Free with Jenn Mahlik
Jenn Mahlik shares her experience of being let go in a way that lacked empathy, thoughtfulness, and intention and the lasting impact that kind of moment can have. Because being let go is already hard. But when it’s handled without humanity, it can feel deeply personal… even like a betrayal. In…
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Fired AND Free with Meghann Hanvey
In this episode of Fired AND Free, Meghann shares her journey of finding a company that is deeply aligned with her values. One that redefined what it meant to support working parents, build community, and lead with humanity. When the company faced a necessary restructuring, her experience stood…
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Fired AND Free with Rebecca Gindele
After being pushed into a leadership path that didn’t align, and ultimately getting fired, Rebecca found herself with something unexpected: the space to pause and get honest. Instead of rushing into the next role, she took the time to reflect on what truly worked for her and what didn’t. In this...
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Fired AND Free with Daniel Huerta
When Daniel Huerta was fired, it opened a door. But the real turning point in his story came earlier, when he lost his best friend far too soon. In this episode, Daniel shares how grief reshaped his perspective, how a side project slowly became Modern People Leader, and what it looks like to…
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Fired AND Free with Ivy and April
In the first episode of our Fired AND Free series, April and Ivy go first, sharing their own deeply personal stories of being fired, and what came after. They unpack the fear, shame, and loss that often come with being fired… and the unexpected freedom, clarity, and redirection on the other side....
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Wellness AND Performance | Resource Round Up
In this Wellness AND Performance resource round-up, April reflects on the biggest lessons from the series where ambition meets alignment, and performance becomes sustainable. From redefining success and shifting environments, to building habits, community, and leadership practices that actually...
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Wellness AND Performance with Vaishali Jadhav
In this final episode of the Wellness AND Performance series, April sits down with Vaishali Jadhav, Founder of Mandalight Learning, to explore how great leadership drives both performance and well-being. From Gallup to Whole Foods Market, Vaishali shares how small shifts, like creating space,...
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Wellness AND Performance with Alex Schulze
In this episode of the Wellness AND Performance series, April and Ivy sit down with Alex, Co-Founder of 4Ocean, to explore the connection between discipline, mindset, and sustainable performance. From pushing physical limits to redefining mental resilience, Alex shares how consistency,...
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Wellness AND Performance with Meg Gold and Parnian Emami
In this episode, we go inside Bonde with founders Meg Gold and Parnian Emami. A space built on intention, connection, and aligned ambition. Discover how wellness AND performance can coexist, and what becomes possible when community is the catalyst for change.
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Wellness AND Performance with Melissa Busby
In this episode, Melissa Busby shares her journey through wellness, shadow work, and authentic living-unpacking how true transformation happens when we stop avoiding the hard parts and start leaning into them. From reprogramming limiting beliefs to understanding the power of mindset, Melissa...
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Wellness AND Performance with Brie Kluytenaar // Part 2
In Part 2 of our conversation with Brie Kluytenaar, we move from her story into the practice of wellness itself. Brie shares practical ways to design your day, build small daily habits that support well-being, and rethink how workplaces can support the humans inside them. Because sustainable...
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Wellness AND Performance with Brie Kluytenaar // Part 1
In this two-part kickoff to our Wellness and Performance series, April and Ivy sit down with attorney and Practicing Wellness founder Brie Kluytenaar. After six years in BigLaw and 15 years helping companies design better work as an employment attorney, Brie reached a turning point that led her…
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Scared AND Brave | Resource Round Up
In this round-up episode of Scared AND Brave series, April reflects on the women who defined this season - Caroline Boudreaux, Robin Lerner, Whitney Rowell,, Molly Morse, Amy Kiska and Jodi Scott - and distills the patterns woven through their stories. Running toward the fire.Taking one small...
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Scared AND Brave with Jodi Scott
In this episode, April sits down with longtime friend and entrepreneur Jodi Scott to share the story behind The Winfield Inn and her first steps into building businesses. From discovering an unexpected property to building it into a beloved wedding and event venue rooted in love and community.…
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Scared AND Brave with Amy Kiska and Molly Morse
In this episode, Amy and Molly share the behind-the-scenes story of founding Recess from the “why not?” moments, late-night conversations, and the bold decision to leap into entrepreneurship. From dreaming about becoming founders as young girls to identifying a real market need for families…
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Scared AND Brave with Whitney Rowell
In this episode, April sits down with Whitney Rowell, founder of Miracle Mama, to talk about building a business rooted in motherhood, community, and purpose. From launching lactation cookies out of her kitchen to scaling production and raising capital, Whitney shares the honest journey of…
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Scared AND Brave with Robin Lerner
In this episode of The AND Podcast, April and Ivy sit down with Robin Lerner, someone who has spent her life stepping into some of the world’s hardest places, choosing presence, compassion, and responsibility even when fear is present. Together, they explore what it looks like to hold grief and...
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Scared AND Brave with Caroline Boudreaux
Sometimes courage doesn’t show up as a big, bold leap. Sometimes it looks like one small step forward…taken again and again and again. In this episode of The AND Podcast, April and Ivy sit down with Caroline to explore the moment that changed everything. A moment rooted in fear, heartbreak, and...
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People AND Profit | Resource Round Up
In this People AND Profit resource round-up episode, April distills the biggest leadership insights from conversations with Steve Harden, Priscilla Sauceda, and Erin Cooper, weaving their perspectives together with hard-earned lessons from building and scaling people-centric organizations. Across...
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People AND Profit with Erin Cooper
The messy middle of leadership is real. In this episode of the AND Podcast, April and Ivy sit down with Erin Cooper to talk about one of the hardest and least discussed stages of leadership: middle management. When you’re leading people, driving results, and operating inside systems you didn’t...
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People AND Profit with Priscilla Sauceda
What does real leadership leave behind? In this episode, Priscilla shares the journey that led her and her husband to build Sauceda Industries and the lessons that shaped the culture at its core. From learning what not to do, to intentionally designing a people-first business, Priscilla walks us...
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People AND Profit with Steve Harden
In this episode of The AND Podcast, we are joined by Steve Harden. A leader whose career spans some of the world’s most iconic brands, including Adidas and Oakley. We talk about what it really means to lead with intention: showing up for people, making decisions rooted in values, and…
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The AND Podcast | Meet our Co-Host
Some people come into your life and instantly feel like home - Ivy Ford is one of those people. In this episode, April sits down with Ivy, a force of energy, empathy, and intention. They talk about the experiences that shaped her, the lessons she’s learned along the way, and how she continues to...
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Welcome to AND | For the Ones Who Refuse to Shrink
This is the beginning. The moment we stop choosing and start expanding. In this first episode, April shatters the myth that we have to fit into one identity, one lane, or one version of ourselves. She shares the raw, honest story behind the AND movement and the seasons of her life that made “AND...
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
The AND Podcast brings together leaders, makers, and thinkers who live beyond the limits of either/or. These are the real, unfiltered conversations about identity, leadership, creativity, and life where contradictions aren’t something to fix, but something to embrace. Here, we unpack what it means to lead with courage, live with depth, and thrive in the tension of AND.
HOSTED BY
April Obersteller
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The AND Podcast brings together leaders, makers, and thinkers who live beyond the limits of either/or. These are the real, unfiltered conversations about identity, leadership, creativity, and life where contradictions aren’t something to fix, but something to embrace. Here, we unpack what it means...
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The AND Podcast is created and hosted by April Obersteller.
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