EPISODE · Jan 8, 2026 · 15 MIN
Season 4, Episode 1: The rule of fang and claw
from On the Fringe · host Dave and Gavin
(00:00:00) Season 4, Episode 1: The rule of fang and claw (00:00:20) Podcast Starts -- The end of the International Order (00:02:41) Implications of a new world dynamic (00:05:45) What changes for middle / regional powers (00:08:26) Au revoir to liberal institutionalism (00:11:31) Uncertainty is the new name of the game Hey all! We are kicking off season 4 much earlier than we’d thought. Why?Early Saturday morning, the international rules-based order, or what was left of it, expired both painfully and suddenly with the removal of Nicolas Maduro (and his wife) from Caracas to New York City.In this episode, we focus, not on the events of that early morning raid, but of its potential and actual ramifications for international relations. The idea that relations between states are governed by codified, internationally-accepted laws has been the main characteristic of relations between states over the last 75 years. It is no longer the case, and inter-state conflict is about to ramp up in a way that is both predictable and utterly impossible to foresee.If you enjoyed the episode, shoot us a comment, give us some love, and let us know.We appreciate it and will be back again soon!Dave and Gavin
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(00:00:00) Season 4, Episode 1: The rule of fang and claw (00:00:20) Podcast Starts -- The end of the International Order (00:02:41) Implications of a new world dynamic (00:05:45) What changes for middle / regional powers (00:08:26) Au revoir to liberal institutionalism (00:11:31) Uncertainty is the new name of the game Hey all! We are kicking off season 4 much earlier than we’d thought. Why?Early Saturday morning, the international rules-based order, or what was left of it, expired both painfully and suddenly with the removal of Nicolas Maduro (and his wife) from Caracas to New York City.In this episode, we focus, not on the events of that early morning raid, but of its potential and actual ramifications for international relations. The idea that relations between states are governed by codified, internationally-accepted laws has been the main characteristic of relations between states over the last 75 years. It is no longer the case, and inter-state conflict is about to ramp up in a way that is both predictable and utterly impossible to foresee.If you enjoyed the episode, shoot us a comment, give us some love, and let us know.We appreciate it and will be back again soon!Dave and Gavin
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