Sebastian Smee on being laid off by the Washington Post, plus the secret life of famous author Daniel Defoe

Pulitzer prize-winning art critic Sebastian Smee, recently laid off by Jeff Bezos's Washington Post, looks at the state of the arts in Trump's America., Plus, the story of Daniel Defoe's secret life as a spy, against Scottish independence, in the early 1700s, before he became the author of the famous 'Robinson Crusoe'.Guests:Sebastian Smee, writer and art critic, formerly with The Washington PostMarc Mierowsky, author of 'A spy amongst us: Daniel Defoe's Secret Service and the plot to end Scottish Independence' (Yale University Press)