Second Helping - Conversion

This episode dives deep into the political and moral battle over conversion therapy in South Carolina. Grace and Katelyn break down Columbia’s ordinance banning the practice, the state’s threat to strip millions in funding, and what it reveals about power, control, and LGBTQ+ rights. They explore how religious ideology and budget maneuvers collide, and why this fight is about more than therapy—it's about who gets to decide how we live and who gets to belong. A sharp, urgent conversation about policy, precedent, and the stakes of silence.