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EPISODE · Jan 16, 2026 · 51 MIN

Secrets to Scaling a Digital Agency to 8 Figures a Year

from That Agency Show · host Kyle Sulerud and Drew Carrell

The founders of Leadzolo, Kyle Sulerud and Drew Carrell, share their full journey of how they built their hybrid agency to over $25 million in revenue in four years. They pull back the curtain on the challenges of scaling an eight-figure digital agency, the simplicity of their model, and how they built a business that allows them to take time off and pursue the lifestyles they love, from traveling the world to running ultra marathons.https://thatagencygroup.comhttps://usejuiced.comIn this episode, we cover:0:00 - Introduction: A $25 Million Agency Doing $1M/Month in Revenue0:20 - Learning the Agency World the Hard Way (Warrior Forum Advice)1:11 - Scaling from Freelancer to an 8-Figure Agency2:10 - The Founders' North Dakota Trip and the Full Leadzolo Story3:09 - The Problem with Masterminds and Courses Run by Non-Operators4:33 - The Truth About Profitability and Revenue Peaks (Up to $1.7M in a Month)5:10 - Why "Learning on Somebody Else's Dime" is a Huge Disservice6:12 - Who This Show is For: From Freelancers to $1M/Month Agency Owners7:11 - What to Expect: The Entire Agency Journey Mapped Out8:33 - The Problem with Short Agency Podcasts and the Need for Deep Content9:19 - Starting with the End in Mind: Our Hybrid Agency Model and Proprietary Software10:40 - Our Promise: No Gatekeeping Content or Selling Information11:59 - Engage With Us to Drive Future Episodes12:53 - Join Our Free Agency Community: ThatAgencyGroup.com14:55 - The Current Model: Simple, Not Complicated15:46 - The Hybrid Agency Model Explained (Pay-Per-Lead vs. Retainer)17:01 - How Our Software Monetizes More Leads and Solves Client Pain Points19:45 - 16 Team Members Managing 450 Active Clients20:18 - The Complexity of the Old Retainer-Only Agency Model (20 Clients with 16 Staff)21:46 - Why Our Agency is Hands-Off and Automated22:57 - The High Cost of Client Communication and Unnecessary Complexity23:49 - Selling the Result: The Ultimate Benefit of Pay-Per-Lead24:55 - Why We Don't Use SOPs for Intelligent Team Members27:39 - The Guru's Take: "If you need SOPs, you have shitty team members"28:10 - Tracking the Right KPIs (Including Hourly for $20k/Day Ad Spend)30:00 - Hiring Problem-Solvers Over SOP-Followers31:36 - Grant Cardone and Real-Time KPI Tracking32:53 - Why We Run a Virtual Agency34:39 - The Expense and Feasibility of an In-Person Office35:08 - Drew's Traveling Lifestyle (8 Cities in 6 Weeks)36:19 - Keynote Speaking and Live Lead Calls on Stage42:19 - How Leadzolo Provided Drew's Dream Lifestyle42:43 - Kyle's Lifestyle: Family Man, Running, and Backpacking in Minnesota44:27 - Focusing on High-Level Projects and Not Talking to Clients47:20 - Kyle's Passion: Building and Scaling an Agency48:43 - Creating a Simple Business That Allows You to Do the Things You Love50:33 - Next Episode: Starting as Freelancers

The founders of Leadzolo, Kyle Sulerud and Drew Carrell, share their full journey of how they built their hybrid agency to over $25 million in revenue in four years. They pull back the curtain on the challenges of scaling an eight-figure digital agency, the simplicity of their model, and how they built a business that allows them to take time off and pursue the lifestyles they love, from traveling the world to running ultra marathons.https://thatagencygroup.comhttps://usejuiced.comIn this episode, we cover:0:00 - Introduction: A $25 Million Agency Doing $1M/Month in Revenue0:20 - Learning the Agency World the Hard Way (Warrior Forum Advice)1:11 - Scaling from Freelancer to an 8-Figure Agency2:10 - The Founders' North Dakota Trip and the Full Leadzolo Story3:09 - The Problem with Masterminds and Courses Run by Non-Operators4:33 - The Truth About Profitability and Revenue Peaks (Up to $1.7M in a Month)5:10 - Why "Learning on Somebody Else's Dime" is a Huge Disservice6:12 - Who This Show is For: From Freelancers to $1M/Month Agency Owners7:11 - What to Expect: The Entire Agency Journey Mapped Out8:33 - The Problem with Short Agency Podcasts and the Need for Deep Content9:19 - Starting with the End in Mind: Our Hybrid Agency Model and Proprietary Software10:40 - Our Promise: No Gatekeeping Content or Selling Information11:59 - Engage With Us to Drive Future Episodes12:53 - Join Our Free Agency Community: ThatAgencyGroup.com14:55 - The Current Model: Simple, Not Complicated15:46 - The Hybrid Agency Model Explained (Pay-Per-Lead vs. Retainer)17:01 - How Our Software Monetizes More Leads and Solves Client Pain Points19:45 - 16 Team Members Managing 450 Active Clients20:18 - The Complexity of the Old Retainer-Only Agency Model (20 Clients with 16 Staff)21:46 - Why Our Agency is Hands-Off and Automated22:57 - The High Cost of Client Communication and Unnecessary Complexity23:49 - Selling the Result: The Ultimate Benefit of Pay-Per-Lead24:55 - Why We Don't Use SOPs for Intelligent Team Members27:39 - The Guru's Take: "If you need SOPs, you have shitty team members"28:10 - Tracking the Right KPIs (Including Hourly for $20k/Day Ad Spend)30:00 - Hiring Problem-Solvers Over SOP-Followers31:36 - Grant Cardone and Real-Time KPI Tracking32:53 - Why We Run a Virtual Agency34:39 - The Expense and Feasibility of an In-Person Office35:08 - Drew's Traveling Lifestyle (8 Cities in 6 Weeks)36:19 - Keynote Speaking and Live Lead Calls on Stage42:19 - How Leadzolo Provided Drew's Dream Lifestyle42:43 - Kyle's Lifestyle: Family Man, Running, and Backpacking in Minnesota44:27 - Focusing on High-Level Projects and Not Talking to Clients47:20 - Kyle's Passion: Building and Scaling an Agency48:43 - Creating a Simple Business That Allows You to Do the Things You Love50:33 - Next Episode: Starting as Freelancers

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