EPISODE · Jun 16, 2025 · 28 MIN
Shifting Up: How AI Frees Us to Be Human featuring Travis Farral
from Do Human Work · host 7AI
What would you do with 25% more time? Travis Farral, VP and CISO at Archaea Energy, joins hosts Nate Burke and Lior Div to explore how AI can reclaim our time from cybersecurity’s tedious tasks—and what we’d do with that time instead. From data sifting and incident response to managing swarms of AI agents, the conversation dives into how the nature of human work is evolving and what defenders should expect next. This episode kicks off "Do Human Work" with real talk about reclaiming creativity, the inevitability of AI-human collaboration, and why the arms race between attackers and defenders just leveled up. Impactful Moments: 00:00 – Introduction 02:31 – "More time means more human connection" 04:04 – Human work vs. machine work 06:13 – The cybersecurity tasks we want AI to take 07:58 – Managing AI agents like team members 10:22 – AI organizing your personal life 13:00 – Travis’s cybersecurity bucket list 15:30 – The cat-and-mouse game never ends 18:30 – What AI will change in five years 22:14 – Swarms of AI agents talking to each other 26:39 – AI is already part of everyday life Interested in being a guest or want to recommend someone? Reach out to us at [email protected]
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