Silicon Bites #63 - Putin’s Plan was to Erase Ukraine in 2022 and Likely has not Changed in 3 years. episode artwork

EPISODE · Nov 23, 2024 · 19 MIN

Silicon Bites #63 - Putin’s Plan was to Erase Ukraine in 2022 and Likely has not Changed in 3 years.

from Silicon Curtain · host Jonathan Fink

Edition No63 | 23-11-2024 - Documents from the first weeks of Putin’s invasion have been obtained by Russian investigative unit Systema. They reveal aspects of the plan to render post-war Ukraine powerless. Russia seems to have embarked on its war, with a ‘pre-baked’ “peace agreement” to impose upon a defeated Ukraine. One also presumes with the Ukrainian government decapitated and its leaders either captured or killed. ---------- SILICON CURTAIN FILM FUNDRAISER A project to make a documentary film in Ukraine, to raise awareness of Ukraine's struggle and in supporting a team running aid convoys to Ukraine's frontline towns. https://buymeacoffee.com/siliconcurtain/extras ---------- The document contains a list of conditions for a ceasefire and peace agreement. It was presented to Ukraine’s delegation during the third round of talks in Belarus on March 7, 2022. Systema received the document from a Ukrainian source familiar with the course of the negotiations and a source from the Russian side verified its authenticity. I have no way to corroborate this but share the contents while advising people to remain healthily sceptical. The document consists of six pages containing a draft agreement of 18 articles that touch on a wide range of issues. The Ukrainian delegation, led by Verkhovna Rada deputy Davyd Arakhamia, met with a Russian team led by Putin aide Vladimir Medinsky. The proposal includes requirements for Ukraine’s neutrality, border placement, and humanitarian concerns such as language, religion, and history. The proposal was written before Russia’s annexation of four Ukrainian regions in September 2022 and doesn’t include the Kherson and Zaporizhzhia. The initial version of the “peace agreement,” includes terms that would be impossible for any free Ukrainian government to accept. Only politicians with a gun to their heads might be inclined to agree to such terms, which in effect, amount to the dissolution of the Ukrainian state, and to rendering it completely vulnerable to subsequent attack or demands by Russia. - Near-total disarmament of Ukraine under Moscow’s supervision - Isolation from Western assistance and participation in bodies such as NATO and EU - Long-term stationing of Russian troops on territories captured in war’s first weeks Some of these demands remained unchanged throughout the entire negotiations process. From what we know, the Ukrainian delegation only tentatively agreed to one of Russia’s key demands, to become a “permanently neutral state” that would never join NATO or allow foreign troops to be stationed on its territory. ---------- NEWS SOURCES: https://meduza.io/en/feature/2024/11/04/journalists-obtain-russia-s-initial-proposals-from-march-2022-negotiations-revealing-putin-s-plans-for-post-war-ukraine ---------- SUPPORT THE CHANNEL: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/siliconcurtain https://www.patreon.com/siliconcurtain ---------- TRUSTED CHARITIES ON THE GROUND: Save Ukraine https://www.saveukraineua.org/ Superhumans - Hospital for war traumas https://superhumans.com/en/ UNBROKEN - Treatment. Prosthesis. Rehabilitation for Ukrainians in Ukraine https://unbroken.org.ua/ Come Back Alive https://savelife.in.ua/en/ Chefs For Ukraine - World Central Kitchen https://wck.org/relief/activation-chefs-for-ukraine UNITED24 - An initiative of President Zelenskyy https://u24.gov.ua/ Serhiy Prytula Charity Foundation https://prytulafoundation.org NGO “Herojam Slava” https://heroiamslava.org/ kharpp - Reconstruction project supporting communities in Kharkiv and Przemyśl https://kharpp.com/ NOR DOG Animal Rescue https://www.nor-dog.org/home/ ---------- PLATFORMS: Twitter: https://twitter.com/CurtainSilicon Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/siliconcurtain/ Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/4thRZj6NO7y93zG11JMtqm Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/finkjonathan/ Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/siliconcurtain ----------

Edition No63 | 23-11-2024 - Documents from the first weeks of Putin’s invasion have been obtained by Russian investigative unit Systema. They reveal aspects of the plan to render post-war Ukraine powerless. Russia seems to have embarked on its war, with a ‘pre-baked’ “peace agreement” to impose upon a defeated Ukraine. One also presumes with the Ukrainian government decapitated and its leaders either captured or killed. ---------- SILICON CURTAIN FILM FUNDRAISER A project to make a documentary film in Ukraine, to raise awareness of Ukraine's struggle and in supporting a team running aid convoys to Ukraine's frontline towns. https://buymeacoffee.com/siliconcurtain/extras ---------- The document contains a list of conditions for a ceasefire and peace agreement. It was presented to Ukraine’s delegation during the third round of talks in Belarus on March 7, 2022. Systema received the document from a Ukrainian source familiar with the course of the negotiations and a source from the Russian side verified its authenticity. I have no way to corroborate this but share the contents while advising people to remain healthily sceptical. The document consists of six pages containing a draft agreement of 18 articles that touch on a wide range of issues. The Ukrainian delegation, led by Verkhovna Rada deputy Davyd Arakhamia, met with a Russian team led by Putin aide Vladimir Medinsky. The proposal includes requirements for Ukraine’s neutrality, border placement, and humanitarian concerns such as language, religion, and history. The proposal was written before Russia’s annexation of four Ukrainian regions in September 2022 and doesn’t include the Kherson and Zaporizhzhia. The initial version of the “peace agreement,” includes terms that would be impossible for any free Ukrainian government to accept. Only politicians with a gun to their heads might be inclined to agree to such terms, which in effect, amount to the dissolution of the Ukrainian state, and to rendering it completely vulnerable to subsequent attack or demands by Russia. - Near-total disarmament of Ukraine under Moscow’s supervision - Isolation from Western assistance and participation in bodies such as NATO and EU - Long-term stationing of Russian troops on territories captured in war’s first weeks Some of these demands remained unchanged throughout the entire negotiations process. From what we know, the Ukrainian delegation only tentatively agreed to one of Russia’s key demands, to become a “permanently neutral state” that would never join NATO or allow foreign troops to be stationed on its territory. ---------- NEWS SOURCES: https://meduza.io/en/feature/2024/11/04/journalists-obtain-russia-s-initial-proposals-from-march-2022-negotiations-revealing-putin-s-plans-for-post-war-ukraine ---------- SUPPORT THE CHANNEL: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/siliconcurtain https://www.patreon.com/siliconcurtain ---------- TRUSTED CHARITIES ON THE GROUND: Save Ukraine https://www.saveukraineua.org/ Superhumans - Hospital for war traumas https://superhumans.com/en/ UNBROKEN - Treatment. Prosthesis. Rehabilitation for Ukrainians in Ukraine https://unbroken.org.ua/ Come Back Alive https://savelife.in.ua/en/ Chefs For Ukraine - World Central Kitchen https://wck.org/relief/activation-chefs-for-ukraine UNITED24 - An initiative of President Zelenskyy https://u24.gov.ua/ Serhiy Prytula Charity Foundation https://prytulafoundation.org NGO “Herojam Slava” https://heroiamslava.org/ kharpp - Reconstruction project supporting communities in Kharkiv and Przemyśl https://kharpp.com/ NOR DOG Animal Rescue https://www.nor-dog.org/home/ ---------- PLATFORMS: Twitter: https://twitter.com/CurtainSilicon Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/siliconcurtain/ Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/4thRZj6NO7y93zG11JMtqm Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/finkjonathan/ Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/siliconcurtain ----------

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