So This Is Purgatory, with Special Guest Co-host Eric Holthaus

Live from quarantine! Mary and Amy talk to The Correspondent's Eric Holthaus about how to remain optimistic, the ways corona and climate do and don't intersect, and why you can't sleep on climate just because there's another catastrophe unfolding.Reading ListWe're Not Just Stopping Coronavirus, We're Building a New World, by Eric Holthaus in The Correspondent: https://thecorrespondent.com/385/we-arent-just-stopping-coronavirus-were-building-a-new-world/50968856015-625b9768Trump Moves Forward On Biggest Environmental Rollback To Date Amid Pandemic Chaos, by Alex Kaufman and Chris D'Angelo in HuffPost https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-auto-emissions_n_5e834685c5b6d38d98a50868States Quietly Pass Laws Criminalizing Fossil Fuel Protests Amid Coronavirus Chaos, by Alex Kaufman in HuffPost https://www.huffpost.com/entry/pipeline-protest-laws-coronavirus_n_5e7e7570c5b6256a7a2aab41Will Pandemic Relief Become a Petroleum Industry Slush Fund? by Amy Westervelt in Drilled News https://www.drillednews.com/post/will-pandemic-relief-become-a-petroleum-industry-slush-fundExxon Now Wants to Write the Rules for Regulating Methane Emissions, by Justin Mikulka in DeSmog https://www.desmogblog.com/2020/03/16/exxon-write-rules-regulating-methane-emissionsThe Analogy Between COVID-19 and Climate Change Is Eerily Precise, by Gilad Edelman in Wired https://www.wired.com/story/the-analogy-between-covid-19-and-climate-change-is-eerily-precise/What Climate Grief Taught Me About the Coronavirus, by Mary Annaise Heglar in The New Republic  https://newrepublic.com/article/157059/climate-grief-taught-coronavirusThe Climate Crisis Will Be Just as Shockingly Abrupt, by Melody Schreiber in The New Republic https://newrepublic.com/article/157078/climate-crisis-will-just-shockingly-abruptHere's Why We'll Never Treat the Climate Crisis With the Same Urgency as Coronavirus, by Amy Westervelt in HuffPost https://www.huffpost.com/entry/coronavirus-climate-change-fossil-fuel-profits_n_5e786da4c5b6f5b7c547329eSorry, But the Virus Shows Why There Won't Be Global Action on Climate Change, by Jason Bordoff in Foreign Policy https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/03/27/coronavirus-pandemic-shows-why-no-global-progress-on-climate-change/The Pandemic Isn't Fixing Climate Change, by John Sutter in CNN https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/27/opinions/pandemic-not-fixing-climate-change-sutter/index.htmlHow the Coronavirus Crisis May Hinder Efforts to Fight Wildfires, by Kendra Pierre Louis in The New York Times Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices