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EPISODE · May 26, 2026 · 19 MIN

SOLO | Make Money by Taking Control of Your Health - Lessons from my Michael Smoak interview

from Travis Makes Money · host Travis Chappell

In this episode, Travis breaks down his conversation with wellness creator and fitness educator Michael Smoak, better known online as HigherUpWellness. With millions of followers across TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube, Michael has built a massive audience by cutting through the noise of the fitness industry and sharing practical, evidence-based advice that actually works. Travis reflects on the lessons from their conversation, including why nuance matters in health, how simple habits outperform trendy hacks, and why taking ownership of your physical health can completely transform your life. On this episode we talk about: Why certainty and absolutism are major red flags in the fitness industry The importance of getting your physical health in order early in life Why fitness and weight loss are simple, but not easy How honestly tracking your food can completely change your perspective Why personal responsibility matters more than relying on the healthcare system Top 3 Takeaways Most health and fitness advice fails because people focus on hacks and shortcuts instead of mastering the fundamentals like sleep, movement, nutrition, and consistency. Tracking your calories honestly — even for just 30 days — can expose the habits that are actually holding you back. Taking control of your health improves far more than your body; it impacts your confidence, mental clarity, opportunities, and overall quality of life. Notable Quotes “Nuance isn’t weakness — nuance is honesty.” “It’s not easy, but it is simple.” “Nobody’s coming to fix this for you.” Connect with Michael Smoak: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/higherupwellness TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@higherupwellness Other: https://higherupwellness.com A Word from Our Sponsors: - Are you ready to start your own creatorjourney and make it big? Visitwww.fanvue.com today and launch yourcareer! - To learn more about Mode Mobile and its investor community, go tohttps://invest.modemobile.com/travismakesmoney-Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Travis breaks down his conversation with wellness creator and fitness educator Michael Smoak, better known online as HigherUpWellness. With millions of followers across TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube, Michael has built a massive audience by cutting through the noise of the fitness industry and sharing practical, evidence-based advice that actually works. Travis reflects on the lessons from their conversation, including why nuance matters in health, how simple habits outperform trendy hacks, and why taking ownership of your physical health can completely transform your life. On this episode we talk about: Why certainty and absolutism are major red flags in the fitness industry The importance of getting your physical health in order early in life Why fitness and weight loss are simple, but not easy How honestly tracking your food can completely change your perspective Why personal responsibility matters more than relying on the healthcare system Top 3 Takeaways Most health and fitness advice fails because people focus on hacks and shortcuts instead of mastering the fundamentals like sleep, movement, nutrition, and consistency. Tracking your calories honestly — even for just 30 days — can expose the habits that are actually holding you back. Taking control of your health improves far more than your body; it impacts your confidence, mental clarity, opportunities, and overall quality of life. Notable Quotes “Nuance isn’t weakness — nuance is honesty.” “It’s not easy, but it is simple.” “Nobody’s coming to fix this for you.” Connect with Michael Smoak: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/higherupwellness TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@higherupwellness Other: https://higherupwellness.com A Word from Our Sponsors: - Are you ready to start your own creatorjourney and make it big? Visitwww.fanvue.com today and launch yourcareer! - To learn more about Mode Mobile and its investor community, go tohttps://invest.modemobile.com/travismakesmoney-Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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