EPISODE · Jun 20, 2026 · 1H 40M
Speaking of Cults...The Struggle of Scientology with Matt Pesch
from Speaking of Cults · host Chris Shelton
This week I welcome former Scientologist and Sea Org member Matt Pesch, someone who joined up in the 1970s, was early friends with Marty Rathbun and had decades of experience in Scientology at its highest levels. This is the first of a series of interviews with Matt to discuss not only his own time in Scientology but also the flavor of the subject and the times in which it has existed. In this episode, we cover Miscavige's early days and how he rose to power, who Marty Rathbun was and how he got involved and what things were like in the much wilder times. Enjoy!
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This week I welcome former Scientologist and Sea Org member Matt Pesch, someone who joined up in the 1970s, was early friends with Marty Rathbun and had decades of experience in Scientology at its highest levels. This is the first of a series of interviews with Matt to discuss not only his own time in Scientology but also the flavor of the subject and the times in which it has existed. In this episode, we cover Miscavige's early days and how he rose to power, who Marty Rathbun was and how he got involved and what things were like in the much wilder times. Enjoy!
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