Special Edition: "The Bible don't pay the bills" a raw conversation with Dr. Kevin Middleton episode artwork

EPISODE · Jun 5, 2025 · 37 MIN

Special Edition: "The Bible don't pay the bills" a raw conversation with Dr. Kevin Middleton

from Some of my Best Work with Eric Hoke · host Eric Hoke

Today’s Special Edition of “Your Best Work: The Podcast” is audio from Covo Con with Dr. Kevin Middleton and Covocational Ministry in the Black Church. Here are some practical takeaways.* Blend Marketplace and Ministry Skills* Pursue practical, marketable skills alongside ministry training. This dual approach provides financial stability and resilience, as seen during crises like COVID, and reflects Middleton’s pastor’s wisdom: “Bible doesn’t pay the bills, skills and marketplace degrees will.”* Embrace Shared Leadership* Move away from the solo-pastor model by identifying and empowering congregants’ gifts (e.g., through conversations or tools like the APES framework: Apostles, Prophets, Evangelists, Shepherds, Teachers). Delegate responsibilities to build a collaborative, sustainable church structure.* Prioritize Personal Health and Balance* Implement regular self-care practices: weekly therapy, monthly spiritual direction, a consistent Sabbath, and hobbies (e.g., gaming, hiking). Middleton’s use of a Google calendar to create margin and limit unnecessary meetings helps maintain sanity and vitality.* Engage Younger Generations Holistically* Recognize that Millennials and Gen Z value meaningful work outside traditional church roles (e.g., nonprofits, justice initiatives). Equip them to see all vocations as holy, fostering a church culture that integrates faith and daily life rather than competing with platforms like TikTok for influence.* Cultivate a Covocational Framework* Build a church culture where everyone’s calling is supported, not just the pastor’s. Host events like job fairs or faith-and-work series to affirm congregants’ marketplace roles, ensuring the church doesn’t stifle individuality but mobilizes it for mission.* Avoid the Celebrity Pastor Trap* Reject the mindset of being the sole decision-maker. Share responsibility to prevent burnout, enhance accountability, and ensure the church thrives beyond any single leader’s tenure, as Middleton illustrates with biblical examples like Moses and Jesus.* Have Fun and Stay Human* Incorporate enjoyment into ministry life (e.g., playing Mario Kart, walking in nature). Following Eugene Peterson’s advice to not take oneself too seriously, find hobbies and community moments that ground you and refresh your perspective.This Substack is reader-supported. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit erichoke.substack.com

Episode metadata supplied by the publisher feed · Published Jun 5, 2025

Embed this episode

Ready to play

Special Edition: "The Bible don't pay the bills" a raw conversation with Dr. Kevin Middleton

0:00 37:45

No transcript for this episode yet

We transcribe on demand. Request one and we'll notify you when it's ready — usually under 10 minutes.

No similar episodes found.

No similar podcasts found.

Frequently Asked Questions

How long is this episode of Some of my Best Work with Eric Hoke?

This episode is 37 minutes long.

When was this Some of my Best Work with Eric Hoke episode published?

This episode was published on June 5, 2025.

Can I download this Some of my Best Work with Eric Hoke episode?

Yes. Use the download control on the episode player to save the publisher-provided media file.
URL copied to clipboard!