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Apr 22, 2026 1 hr 1 min

Starting Over: The Truth About Timing, Failure & Rebuilding

from The FOURTH PHASE PODCAST Hosted by Fourth Phase Productions

In this first Swim Buddy episode, JJ and Kristel share the real story behind The Fourth Phase Podcast—why it took years to launch, what they went through to get here, and why the timing finally mattered. From divorce and life transitions to rebuilding, discipline, and connection, this episode breaks down what it actually means to start over—and why you’re never out of the fight. They introduce the Swim Buddy concept from Navy SEAL training and how it translates into marriage, partnership, and life.

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