Steph Jagger

Kathryn interviews Author,Psychotherapist Dr. Jane Greer.People employ denial because it makes their lives easier in the moment. It even makes their life appear to be better — the way they'd like it to be, the way they wish it were — rather than what it actually is. It's important to recognize denial's sneaky voice and to talk back to it with clarity and strength. This means exploring what typically traps people in their misery, frustration, and disappointment with their relationships. Being honest with ourselves lets in the voice of reason that we must hear in order to live a healthier emotional life. Dr. Jane Greer helps readers to squelch their tendency to let their own and others' denial rule their lives. She is a marriage and family therapist, psychotherapist, author, radio host, and creator of "SHRINK WRAP," the popular commentary on what we can learn from the trials and triumphs of not only celebrity, but all relationships.Kathryn also interviews Author Steph Jagger.Steph Jagger lost her mother before she lost her. Stricken with an incurable disease that slowly erases all sense of self, her mother struggles to remember her favorite drink, her favorite song, and—perhaps most heartbreaking of all—Steph herself. As the woman who loved and raised her begins to slip away, she makes a promise: to write her mother's story before it's entirely lost. Aware of her mother's waning memory, she proposes a camping trip—which her mother agrees to embark upon. An adventure full of horseback riding, hiking, and "tenting" out west quickly turns into one woman's reflection on the mysteries tucked inside ourselves and our ancestry—and what it means to love someone who doesn't quite remember the person she spent her lifetime becoming. Jagger is a sought-after mentor and coach whose offerings guide people toward a deeper understanding of themselves and their stories. Her work, including speaking and facilitating, lies at the intersection of loss, the nature of deep remembrance, and the personal journey of re-creation.