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EPISODE · Jan 26, 2026 · 46 MIN

Stop Chasing Harmony. Learn Repair

from Grit and Grace: Real Conversatons on Resilience, Growth and Living in Alignment · host Pam Rader and Erin Payne

This episode was inspired by a powerful conversation between Mel Robbins and Terry Real, whose work has deeply shaped how we understand relationships, conflict, and repair. We took their brilliant insights and pulled them apart through our own lived experience — sharing real examples, honest reflections, and what this work actually looks like inside long-term relationships. From the pull of the adaptive child to the responsibility of the wise adult, we explore why harmony isn’t the goal — repair is. Terry Real’s teachings have influenced so much of how we approach relational work, and this episode is both a reflection on his ideas and an invitation to practice them in real life — imperfectly, consciously, and with courage. If you care about your relationships and want tools that actually work when things get hard, this one’s for you. Join us at the Grit & Grace Retreat to explore this work in an embodied, grounded way — in community, in nature, and in real time . https://pamrader.com/gritandgrace

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