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EPISODE · Jun 23, 2025 · 40 MIN

Superintelligence by Experience, Ethical Datasets, and Fine Dining by ChatGPT: The AI Argument EP62

from The AI Argument · host Frank Prendergast and Justin Collery

David Silver says today’s AI won’t get us to superintelligence, not because it isn’t impressive, but because it’s learning the wrong way. GPT-style models hoover up internet text and get polished by human preference, but they’re capped by our own limitations.Silver reckons the next leap will come from AIs that learn the hard way: by doing things, learning from experience, and getting better. Justin’s all in. He thinks we can bin every current regulation and replace it with one golden rule: the model must respond to human feedback.Frank’s far from convinced. He sees a future full of unpredictable agents, long-term planning gone off the rails, and tech companies tearing ahead without full control over what they’ve built. One rule? He’d prefer a few more safety checks before we unleash the bots with big ambitions.So who’s right? Can feedback really keep AI in line, or are we kidding ourselves?Also covered: Midjourney’s stunning new video output and the lawsuits it might not outrun, EleutherAI’s copyright-free dataset, the warped moral values shared by today’s biggest models, and whether ChatGPT should be anywhere near your dinner plans.► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSEDMidjourney launches AI video model. How to try V1, how much it costs.https://mashable.com/article/midjourney-v1-ai-video-generatorDisney and Universal sue AI firm Midjourney over imageshttps://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg5vjqdm1ypoEleutherAI releases massive AI training dataset of licensed and open domain texthttps://techcrunch.com/2025/06/06/eleutherai-releases-massive-ai-training-dataset-of-licensed-and-open-domain-text/Utility Engineering: Analyzing and Controlling Emergent Value Systems in AIshttps://arxiv.org/abs/2502.08640Is Human Data Enough? With David Silverhttps://youtu.be/zzXyPGEtseI?si=9PKiQaGRFXGuoA97This Year’s Hot New Tool for Chefs? ChatGPT.https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/02/dining/ai-chefs-restaurants.html► CONNECT WITH USFor more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn.Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

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David Silver says today’s AI won’t get us to superintelligence, not because it isn’t impressive, but because it’s learning the wrong way. GPT-style models hoover up internet text and get polished by human preference, but they’re capped by our own limitations.Silver reckons the next leap will come from AIs that learn the hard way: by doing things, learning from experience, and getting better. Justin’s all in. He thinks we can bin every current regulation and replace it with one g...

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