Talking with Melanie McCool of Mindworx Hypnotherapy

Send us Fan MailDenise Billen-Mejia MD CH                                                                       [email protected] www.healandberadiant.comLes Roberts ACH                                               [email protected]  www.lesrobertshypnotherapy.co.ukMelanie McCool  CHt                                                                      [email protected]  Hypnosis Education Association President   Welcome to Two Hypnotherapists Talking with me, Denise Villamih here in Delaware, USA. (0:06) And me, Les Roberts in St Helens, United Kingdom. (0:10) This weekly podcast is for anyone and everyone who would like to know more about the fascinating (0:14) world of hypnosis and the benefits that it offers.I'm a clinical hypnotherapist (0:21) and specialist in working with children. And I'm a retired medical doctor and consultant (0:28) to hypnosis. We are Two Hypnotherapists Talking.So let's get on with the episode. (0:37) Hi. So today we get to welcome Melanie McCall, who is, she's not my boss, but she runs a program (0:45) I'm now taking great advantage of in getting my practice out into the public world.Melanie is the (0:55) founder of Hypnobiz in a Box. And everything is a win, which sounds great for hypnosis. (1:02) And she is also the current president of, I'll get this title right, Hypnosis Education Association.(1:10) Okay, good. Since I'm just joining, I ought to remember the name. (1:16) Melanie, why don't you go ahead and talk about yourself a little bit.And then I think you (1:21) were going to talk about overwhelm for hypnotists. Was that the topic? (1:27) So I'm Melanie McCall. I'm the entrepreneur's hypnotherapist.And my specialty is actually in (1:35) helping entrepreneurs through the, well, the many things that we deal with, but especially (1:42) burnout. So I have a protocol that I've developed for people who have experienced (1:50) extreme burnout. And because, well, when I experienced that, I found that the ways that (1:59) people typically said to get help were not working.Now I, so I, yeah. (2:08) Can I just interrupt you for a sec? Was this when you were working in the business world? (2:13) Yes, exactly. So, and I started in business in 2000.I know that's so easy. And it's 25 (2:20) because my daughter's 25 years old because I got started to be her mom, like working from home. (2:26) So I was learning online business and all kinds of things that I had never done before in my life, (2:34) but I did and I became very successful.And, you know, this term, this idea of like being (2:39) very successful from the outside. Well, yes, I was very successful on the outside and my life (2:46) and, you know, it appeared, but in, but inside I was clearly not well. I was overworking and (2:54) there's many reasons for that, which I'm not going to go into necessarily.But what I can tell you (3:02) is when I went, when I got to this point where I, I could not work. So unmitigated stress, (3:10) okay, this is, this is the, the cause of burnout and the world health organization actually (3:19) caused this a, um, a mental syndrome caused from unmitigated workplace stress. So I'm just going (3:28) to put that out there because so many people use the word burnout all the time for all kinds of (3:32) things.Um, but I think, I do kind of think it's kind of odd. You know, they just call it workplace (3:37) place stress because it costs corporations like trillions of dollars a year. (3:43) Yeah.But when you're, when you're an entrepreneur, you're not in an organization that's spending (3:50) trillions to help you. If you're an entrepreneur and you burn out, you literally are taken out. (3:56) So burnout is characterized by three main symptoms.I can, you can tell where somebody (4:02) is on this path by where they're at. Number one is that kind of overwhelmed, but (4:10) exhaustion that you cannot rest from. So you can sleep, you can do yoga, you can meditate, (4:18) you can go on vacation, you could do, and your body literally just does not do the healing it (4:24) needs.That's one. When that continues unmitigated, um, two, you start to get really, (4:32) I just think of it as a cynical phase. Like I hate this thing.I built this to have freedom (4:37) in my life. And instead I hate this. I want to burn it all to the ground.That's, that's phase (4:43) two. When you get to the third, well, you're out of the game. Basically it's lack of productivity.(4:51) Then I'm going to pause there because that's why corporations spend trillions. (4:55) Lack of productivity is what they want. But again, for a, for a business owner, (5:03) lack of productivity means you literally cannot support yourself anymore.I had no idea that this (5:08) could happen. Um, I had, I, when I think back through time, I think I probably burned out four (5:15) times before the big one where I literally couldn't think myself my way out of a paper bag. (5:22) I couldn't.And I was really scared. I'd, you know, at that point I'd been in business for (5:27) almost two decades, my children and our whole lifestyle was built on me being (5:32) a business owner with online business. Um, so I really struggled.I was, I had like massive (5:41) symptoms. And these are all, again, we're going to say the, the burn, they call it burnout as a (5:47) workplace syndrome or, you know, because work workplace stress, but we are not in a vacuum. (5:54) Right.There's family stress. There's the, uh, your, the economies, the, whatever the heck, (6:01) the, all the things around you are all piled on top. Right.So, uh, the idea that it's just from (6:08) work is silly. Um, but I, but all I knew is that I had to, I had to save myself, um, for the sake of (6:16) my family, probably always because of, for somebody else more so than me. Um, and I, I was meditating (6:25) a lot.So if you're familiar with like Dr. Joe's dispensers work, and I mean, when I was listening (6:32) I had, I have such a library of good recordings to share, like really do meditating a lot, (6:41) but I found that it was as if I was coming up against a wall that went to my healing. Like I (6:50) knew that there was just something I couldn't do myself. And I don't know what I searched online to (6:56) get the answers back that, um, led me down the path of getting help from a hypnotherapist, (7:04) but I basically read, which I now can translate as a hypnotherapist gets past the critical factor, (7:11) the critical faculty, or the gatekeeper as we think of it as, and can help me with the insomnia, (7:20) heart palpitations, muscle wasting, anxiety, (7:28) anger, all the things that were wildly out of control.I said, well, you don't have to tell (7:33) me twice, like, hello, I need help. And in the process of getting help, it was like, I just (7:42) imagine this Tetris game happening. All of these pieces were falling into place for me.(7:49) I had worked with literally tens of thousands of people across the world for almost two decades at (7:55) this point, and I saw all of their patterns so clearly. It was really amazing. And I realized (8:05) then that all of that time, all I was ever wanting to do was to help adults to reach their potential (8:12) and to get out of their own way and to do the things that they were passionate about and the (8:17) good life changing things that the services that they provide to humanity.And that's kind of a (8:24) big thing, but I do, I believe that people I get to work with are people who are doing good. So I (8:29) want to free them from their limitations. But back before I was a hypnotist, I didn't have any tools (8:34) to do that.I couldn't say, you know what you've, I've taught you everything I know about sales and (8:40) marketing. You've been in my classes for seven years and you still, the term self-sabotage. (8:51) And I couldn't say, you know what, I think back before I couldn't say, I think, you know, (8:56) you should probably get some therapy for that.Like I didn't have the permission and I didn't (9:01) have the tools and I couldn't talk to people like that. But when I got hypnotherapy, I was like, (9:09) oh, my goodness. I was like, not only did I need that, obviously, because I had to unlearn (9:19) so many habits that were.Yeah. And hypnosis does make that a lot faster for you. It was (9:25) incredible.Like I said, hypnosis and self-hypnosis. Once I got the, the, you know, I think of it as I (9:32) got the weeds out first, right? You can't plant the garden with self-hypnosis and all the good (9:37) things without the weeds. So a hypnotherapist helped me get rid of the weeds and then planting (9:41) the seeds of good habits, getting rid of the bad ones that were keeping me stressed and dying.(9:49) But yeah, at that point I was like, honestly, I, I realized I'd already pretty much stopped (9:55) my business. It took me easily four to six months to even heal enough to do something again. (10:02) I remember waking up and going, oh my gosh, my entrepreneur mind is back online.Thank goodness. (10:08) Like, I'm not going to, you know, I don't, I didn't know what I was going to do. Am I going (10:12) to go be a teacher again? I didn't know what I was going to do.And, um, but when I did, (10:18) I was like, I'm not going back to that same old world. I'm going to do this work. (10:24) Wow.Yeah. And