EPISODE · Jan 15, 2026 · 47 MIN
The Anti-ICP Strategy: How To Use Your Website to Fire Bad Prospects w/ BX Studio
from We're Not Marketers · host Gabriel Bujold, Eric Holland, Zach Roberts
Product marketers think they own the messaging. SEO thinks they own the traffic. But who actually owns your website—and why are they both probably wrong? In this spicy debate with BX Studio, we dig into the turf war destroying B2B websites, why your CEO is the real problem, and the radical idea that maybe your website should actually reject leads (yes, really). Buckle up for hot takes on keyword worship, the death of MQLs, and why your Rolex store strategy is all wrong.Featuring from BX Studio...Jacob Sussman, CEONikiya Griffith, Director of Organic GrowthGrace Arrese, Partnerships AssociateMore from this episode Why adding SEO keywords is like putting ketchup on a wagyu steakThe real reason your website converts trash leads (hint: it's not the copy)What Rolex stores know about lead qualification that B2B marketers don'tThe "Irish Exit" messaging framework that'll change how you write foreverWhy tracking MQLs is like measuring your height to lose weightThe CEO wrecking ball effect (and why it destroys every website eventually)How QuickBooks became a cautionary tale for AI-obsessed marketersThe Writer's Wiki secret that could save product marketing 20 hours a weekWhy your anti-ICP strategy matters more than your ICPThe shocking truth about who actually owns your website (spoiler: it's not who you think)Time Stamps00:00 Opening & Attendee Check-in01:00 Real Humans vs AI Note-takers Discussion02:00 Setting the Stage: PMMs vs Non-PMMs03:00 The Main Question: Who Should Own the Website?03:45 Eric's Hot Take: Product Marketing Should Own It04:45 Nikia's Counter: Joint Ownership is Key05:45 Website Ownership and Blame Discussion07:00 Real-World Website Conversion Problems08:30 The Writer's Wiki Solution11:00 Dream Relationships Between PMM and SEO13:00 Keyword Lists vs Message-First Approach16:00 Website Design and FAQ Strategy18:00 The CRO/CEO Acronym Confusion20:00 QuickBooks AI Positioning Disaster22:00 Who Has Final Say on Messaging?26:30 The CEO Wrecking Ball Problem29:00 The Irish Exit Messaging Analogy31:00 Metrics That Matter: SQLs vs MQLs33:00 The Rolex Store Anti-ICP Strategy35:00 Enterprise Positioning and Deterrence38:00 Nikia's Counter: Why More Metrics Matter41:00 The Internal Echo Chamber Problem45:00 GEO vs SEO: The New Frontier48:00 Closing Thoughts and FarewellHosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.
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