EPISODE · Dec 6, 2023 · 36 MIN
The ATF is Learning From Soviet Russia?! | #14 Alex Brodsky
from State of the Second
State of the Second hosts John and Kaylee sit down with Alex Brodsky, a marketing professional who has spent about eight years across the firearms industry, including time working for an 80% company. Born in the former Soviet Union and now living in California, Alex brings a perspective most guests don't. He left right before the Iron Wall came down, and he uses that history to explain what life looks like when citizens rely entirely on the government for protection and have no real voice. The conversation centers on the ATF and its habit of changing definitions, with Alex drawing a direct line between that pattern and the month-to-month rule changes he watched under communism. Much of the episode digs into 80% receivers and pistol braces, products the ATF once reviewed and approved, then later moved to ban or re-regulate. Alex talks about the pride and ownership people felt building their own firearms, often as a weekend project with a son, and how those moments carry a generational weight. Kaylee ties it back to text, history and tradition, the Bruin decision, and Gun Owners Foundation's video laying out the long history of braced handguns. They cover the real cost to the industry: confusion, a chilling effect on sales, and companies getting hit in the pocketbooks because consumers think a gray area means they should stop buying. The back half turns to action and education. They cover GOA's preliminary national injunction that covers members on the brace issue, the David Chipman nomination fight, the lead ammo and green tip ammo comment battles, New Mexico's carry suspension, the proposed rule redefining who counts as a firearms dealer, banking surveillance and a de facto registry, red flag laws, and the Liberty Safes incident. Alex's recurring message is that your voice matters and the reason it isn't heard is that people aren't using it right. Change is a grassroots effort that starts with educating friends and family. Both hosts share personal stories, a college conversation that turned a skeptic into a range partner and Alex's aunt who bought a Glock 19 after being mugged, as proof that personal experience and education move people. The episode closes with a reminder to join GOA for $25 a year at gunowners.org. Questions this episode answers Why does the ATF keep changing its definitions of legal products like 80% receivers and pistol braces? Alex Brodsky argues the ATF reviews and approves products like 80% receivers and pistol braces, then later moves to ban or re-regulate them, which shifts lawmaking power away from Congress to the executive branch. He compares the month-to-month pattern to the arbitrary rule changes he saw living in the Soviet Union. What are 80% receivers, and why does building your own firearm matter to gun owners? 80% receivers are unfinished components people use to build their own firearms, often as a weekend project. Brodsky describes the pride and ownership owners feel completing a build, sometimes alongside a son, and the generational weight those moments carry. How does growing up in the Soviet Union shape how Alex Brodsky sees American gun rights? Born in the former Soviet Union and leaving right before the Iron Wall fell, Brodsky watched citizens rely entirely on the government with no real voice. He uses that history to argue why holding government accountable matters, since it works for the people, not the other way around. Does contacting your senators and representatives actually make a difference? Brodsky's recurring message is that your voice matters and the reason it goes unheard is that people aren't using it correctly. The episode points to the David Chipman nomination fight and the lead and green tip ammo comment battles as places where public pressure mattered. What does Gun Owners of America's preliminary injunction on the pistol brace ban mean for members? The hosts cover Gun Owners of America's preliminary national injunction that covers GOA members on the pistol brace issue. They tie the brace fight to text, history and tradition, the Bruen decision, and Gun Owners Foundation's video laying out the long history of braced handguns. What is the cost to the firearms industry when the ATF re-regulates approved products? Brodsky points to confusion and a chilling effect on sales, with companies taking a financial hit because consumers treat a gray area as a reason to stop buying. The episode frames this confusion as a real cost the industry absorbs every time definitions shift. What is the ATF's proposed rule on who counts as a firearms dealer, and how could it affect private sales? The episode covers a proposed rule that redefines who counts as a firearms dealer, discussed alongside banking surveillance and a de facto registry. These changes are framed as part of a broader pattern of regulatory overreach affecting ordinary owners and private transactions. How can ordinary gun owners push back against red flag laws and made-up terminology? Brodsky frames change as a grassroots effort that starts with educating friends and family. The hosts share stories, a college skeptic turned range partner and an aunt who bought a Glock 19 after being mugged, as proof that personal experience and education move people more than terminology fights. Chapters 00:00 — Meet Alex, eight years in the industry 01:41 — Working for an 80% company 02:55 — A regulatory agency taking power from Congress 05:03 — The pistol brace ban and 40 million felons 07:53 — Building your own gun: pride and tradition 10:37 — Born in the Soviet Union, no voice under communism 13:17 — Does writing your legislator matter? Chipman and ammo fights 16:48 — New Mexico carry suspension and COVID-era overreach 18:30 — The brace injunction and the cost to the industry 20:59 — Where braces came from and who they protect 23:45 — Privacy, banking surveillance, and Liberty Safes 26:52 — Redefining FFLs and the dealer rule 30:04 — Red flag laws and the terminology battle 32:48 — Education, grassroots change, and personal stories 35:05 — 9 million new gun owners and the closing call to join GOA About the guest Alex Brodsky has worked in the firearms industry for about eight years, on the industry side, the regulation side, and everything in between, including time working for an 80% company. He now does marketing consulting in the industry. He is a naturalized US citizen who was born in the former Soviet Union and left right before the fall of the Iron Wall. He lives in California and is an avid firearms collector and enthusiast. Key quotes "you're taking the power away from Congress to make laws and you're just arbitrarily creating your own laws and giving the executive branch just a huge amount of power to do whatever they want." — Alex Brodsky "I can tell you a time when I lived in Soviet Union where they changed their minds on pretty much everything month to month, because they can do that." — Alex Brodsky "we do have rights and we do hold our government accountable because guys, they work for us, we don't work for them." — Alex Brodsky "our second amendment is constitutionally protected, not government granted." — Kaylee "The reason why they're not hearing your voice is because you're not doing it right." — Alex Brodsky "the echo chamber that they're creating is only an echo chamber if we stay silent." — Kaylee
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